Rayjon Traded to Cleveland for $$$

[NAOS]

Jazz org knew they were gonna look bad on this. Thats why they announce it late on a Friday, the day after a holiday and on a football weekend.

Atleast the PR team knows whats up. Accounting and GM need to up their game.

It happened while everyone (who closely monitors the jazz) was waiting and worrying about Rudy’s extension. The silence was broken by this news. Not a particularly good look, if you ask me.

 

[LoPo]

If I believed half (or even 1/3) of what you are suggesting is accurate, I would move on to all or even one of the teams that have great front offices. They obviously dont get everything right but this list makes no sense. Very easy to be a GM looking backward. So for you and all those that hate what our FO does, list the front offices that kill it every year. I am really curious who the geniuses work for? Nothing easier and nothing that takes less thought then dumping on everything in retrospect.

At least you didn't go down the absolutely ridiculous path of assessing people who we should have drafted once we are 2-3 years past the draft date. 95% of the teams in the NBA can do that analysis every year. And many of them use us getting Donovan and Rudy where we did as evidence their guys are dumb.

I don't hate the front office, but as a fan, I do question questionable moves. To me, our front office issues have come down to "unnecessary" moves. Examples:

- Picking up Bradley's option. Why? Who else is paying him $3.5?

- Ed Davis' contract. Why sign Ed to a guaranteed 2nd year AND pay Tony Bradley? Almost $9 million on two limited bigs?

- Extend Joe for $14 million? I absolutely love Joe, but why give him $3 or $4 more than the MLE? What team would ever pay Joe Ingles more than the MLE at the age he will be in 2021-22?

- Was is necessary to send that much for Conley? Who were we bidding against that was ready to send 2 first rounders and 3 valuable players while crushing cap space?

- Was it necessary to include a $340k Tucker buyout when Quin probably wouldn't even play him in the first place?

- Much of the handling of Exum was unnecessary.

- Letting Hayward leave for absolutely nothing was the first of a number of unnecessary moves. Why let it get to that? Why risk that result?

I understand their job is tough, but we make unnecessary moves. We spend unnecessary assets so we have to burn valuable 2nd rounders to atone for unnecessary spending.

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[stitches]

So why not structure the contracts of Favors, Clarkson and Hughes in a way where we don't have to trade a pick and a young talent to save a measly 100k to avoid the tax?

The Jazz literally pay people to get the numbers right on things like this.

This is a disgrace. One of the worst things I've seen from the Jazz front office. Horrific mismanagement.

It might not be enough. There is a maximum raise in the salaries per year and even if we start at the absolute minimum for 2020 season(minimum that would allow them to hit their contract number), it's possible it's not enough to get under the tax. We might be short like... those 100K or something. Or... it might be a precursor to another move so we don't hit the apron. We don't know yet. It will become clear once the Clarkson and Favors contracts are official.

 

[whatthe]

I think this shows that Ryan Smith has a soft heart. He unloaded these players to teams that might use them and he did it at a cost to the team. He didn't have to do that.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I think this shows that Ryan Smith has a soft heart. He unloaded these players to teams that might use them and he did it at a cost to the team. He didn't have to do that.

I mean something seems soft so you are partly correct

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

It happened while everyone (who closely monitors the jazz) was waiting and worrying about Rudy’s extension. The silence was broken by this news. Not a particularly good look, if you ask me.

Today is the day I said to start worrying if you don’t hear anything on Rudy. If it doesn’t get done this weekend I think there is some trouble.

 

[stitches]

Today is the day I said to start worrying if you don’t hear anything on Rudy. If it doesn’t get done this weekend I think there is some trouble.

The fact that it comes to this point of the off-season is another failure of management. They should have known already if they are extending him or not and if not they should have traded him when the market was hot and teams had assets to give for win now pieces.

 

[LoPo]

The fact that it comes to this point of the off-season is another failure of management. They should have known already if they are extending him or not and if not they should have traded him when the market was hot and teams had assets to give for win now pieces.

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[Handlogten's Heros]

The fact that it comes to this point of the off-season is another failure of management. They should have known already if they are extending him or not and if not they should have traded him when the market was hot and teams had assets to give for win now pieces.

I’m not 100% sure there. They can extend him during the season too at 120% of his current salary. So they have time even if they want to go into the season.

 

[stitches]

I’m not 100% sure there. They can extend him during the season too at 120% of his current salary. So they have time even if they want to go into the season.

Do you think he's going to take that type of extension?

A certain someone just got 4/120... after missing 2.5 years of the last 3. In the same period Rudy was 3 time all NBA, 2 time DPOY, 1 time all-star, 3 time first team D. 120% of his current salary will be about as much as Hayward got. That won't sit well with Rudy IMO.

 

[NAOS]

Do you think he's going to take that type of extension?

A certain someone just got 4/120... after missing 2.5 years of the last 3. In the same period Rudy was 3 time all NBA, 2 time DPOY, 1 time all-star, 3 time first team D. 120% of his current salary will be about as much as Hayward got. That won't sit well with Rudy IMO.

There are asterisks to every deal. Hayseed got his dollars in basketball purgatory. Rudy will be able to look at the cap sheet for the jazz going forward and decide whether title contention or a purgatory deal matters most to him—here or elsewhere.

 

[infection]

So the Cavs waived Tucker. I want to review on this a little bit:

- There was a narrative that we were asset poor and so signing him was kinda like getting a first round pick.

- He didn’t really play so it’s not like we “found out” anything, other than ‘we talkin bout practice.’

- We needed to “act quick” because other teams were hot on his tail.

- None of those teams were hot enough to want to take him for free.

- We had to offload another one of those ‘assets’ to clear his small salary, when it was us having a lack of assets as a driver/justification for signing him (and to guaranteed money) in the first place.

We seem to rationalize a number of decisions “because other teams were after this guy.” The Spurs and TB. NWG and some undisclosed teams wanting to trade for him. Tucker, etc. It seems like there’s at least a small amount of DL having FOMO syndrome, or what other teams are doing seems to impact what he thinks. Or at least we can’t justify a number of our decisions any better than “hey a couple jackass GMs that we otherwise ridicule seem to validate DL’s moves.”