Re-Tool Younger Trade Idea

[Saint Cy of JFC]

The only way that happens is if we get some borderline all star addition at the wing without sacrificing much to get that player.

Outside of that, Rudy at max+ will keep us from competing for 2nd round more than leading us anywhere close to contending.

But hey, keep pushing your pro-Conley and pro-Rudy agendas. Your lack of creativity never surprises me.


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Yeah nerd, youre constant proposals of trying for Terry Rozier last year where so creative and really pushing the Jazz forward.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Im not a huge Bogey fan, but he was the Jazz's 3rd best player all season. Simply having him for the playoffs and another solid rotation player to replace a guy like Niang will help a ton. The Jazz don't need to do anything drastic unless Gobert is saying he won't sign.

 

[One Brow]

Rudy is one dimensional on defense. He can shut down an area of the court but can't shut down an individual player or defend perimeter players.

Who does better on post plays vs. Gobert, compared to their season average? Which centers are better on the perimeter?

Rudy is one dimensional on offense. He can set amazing screens that lead to him finishing lobs. He can't create offense, dribble, post up, etc.

You just described two dimensions.

He is at his prime. When he regresses, we will grow to despise Rudy if he makes too much.

In five years he'll be 33. Still pretty close to his prime.

 

[Cptgrnlngs22]

TRADE IDEA

Utah gets 2020 #15 pick from Orlando, Aaron Gordon and Evan Fournier

Philly gets Mike Conley

Orlando gets #23 utah pick, #21 philly pick and Tobias Harris

Thoughts?


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[Saint Cy of JFC]

TRADE IDEA

Utah gets 2020 #15 pick from Orlando, Aaron Gordon and Evan Fournier

Philly gets Mike Conley

Orlando gets #23 utah pick, #21 philly pick and Tobias Harris

Thoughts?


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Seems like a lot to give up for Orlando just for Tobias and Philly just for Conley (unless they really hate that Tobias contract).

 

[Cptgrnlngs22]

Seems like a lot to give up for Orlando just for Tobias and Philly just for Conley (unless they really hate that Tobias contract).

Yeah Orlando may not want the Harris contract lol unless they are just looking for a good perimeter forward to play with Vucevic. I like it from Utah’s end though.


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[LoPo]

Yeah nerd, youre constant proposals of trying for Terry Rozier last year where so creative and really pushing the Jazz forward.

We could have signed Rozier without having to give up two draft picks and Crowder. And he makes half as much as Conley. And oh yeah, he can play defense against good players which Conley can't.

You're so dumb that you make my arguments for me.

Signing Rozier would have been so much smarter than the Conley trade



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[LoPo]

Who does better on post plays vs. Gobert, compared to their season average? Which centers are better on the perimeter?



You just described two dimensions.



In five years he'll be 33. Still pretty close to his prime.

In the playoffs centers don't stay in the game to guard the perimeter. Unless they can shoot the 3.

One dimension on offense and one on defense. Its easy to attack on defense and limit on the offense.

There are no centers worth $30+ at 30+ years old.

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[LoPo]

TRADE IDEA

Utah gets 2020 #15 pick from Orlando, Aaron Gordon and Evan Fournier

Philly gets Mike Conley

Orlando gets #23 utah pick, #21 philly pick and Tobias Harris

Thoughts?


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Decent idea. Well done.

If we got Gordon and Fournier for Conley, that's pretty fair. A pick would be nice but maybe not necessary. Start Fournier at SG and Don at PG.

Not sure if Philly would trade Harris for Conley straight up. Due to contracts, maybe...

Orlando getting Harris back might be a really good fit. Harris next to Vucevic is a lot of floor spreading opening space in the middle.





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[jom2003]

We could have signed Rozier without having to give up two draft picks and Crowder. And he makes half as much as Conley. And oh yeah, he can play defense against good players which Conley can't.

You're so dumb that you make my arguments for me.

Signing Rozier would have been so much smarter than the Conley trade



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not particularly impressed with Rozier TBH. but trading for Conley was a move so bad that it makes the Rozier signing looks decent

 

[One Brow]

In the playoffs centers don't stay in the game to guard the perimeter. Unless they can shoot the 3.

So, none are better than Gobert. How about that.

One dimension on offense and one on defense. Its easy to attack on defense and limit on the offense.

Repetition doesn't make you correct. It just looks dumb when you can't bother to defend your points.

There are no centers worth $30+ at 30+ years old.

Which 30+ centers were as good five years ago as Gobert is today?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

In the playoffs centers don't stay in the game to guard the perimeter. Unless they can shoot the 3.

One dimension on offense and one on defense. Its easy to attack on defense and limit on the offense.

There are no centers worth $30+ at 30+ years old.

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Gobert was ranked as the best switch defender in the NBA this year clown.