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Hi.

Looks like the atheists want an "adiscussion" here. I've noticed that quite often. It offends some that people talk about something they, the wise noble policemen of human thought, dictate can't exist. Then argue we made it up in our own heads, so it cannot be a valid idea.

I've got some news for you. The same case can be argued for gravity. Let's stop talking about it because we don't know what it is, it has evaded our comprehension, and has broken all the rules we've given it. A more general case could be made for anything invented by man, even science.

Well, some have claimed "I think, therefore I am" as a validation of human existence. If we stop thinking when some wise authority says we must, it's pretty sure we will from then on have a lesser sort of existence.
 
Certainly explains the huge popularity of Christans among the Jews and Romans in the time right around BC, since what God was telling them to do was what the people already felt was right. In fact they were the guests of honor at many Roman festivities for about 3 centuries or so.

The Jews and Romans of the time persecuted christians because their gods told them ite was the right thing to do, just like God is telling many Ugandans to kill practicing homosexuals.
 
It offends some that people talk about something they, the wise noble policemen of human thought, dictate can't exist. Then argue we made it up in our own heads, so it cannot be a valid idea.

I talk about Star Trek occasionally, even thogh that universe can't exist. In general, I have no objection to talking about what does exist. If someone tells me they spoke to Captain kirk (as opposed to an actor), I'll still think they are mistaken. If they tell me I need to speak to Captain Kirk, I'll tell them they are mistaken.

Gravity has empirical effects, and we know it exists because of them.
 
Hi.

Looks like the atheists want an "adiscussion" here. I've noticed that quite often. It offends some that people talk about something they, the wise noble policemen of human thought, dictate can't exist. Then argue we made it up in our own heads, so it cannot be a valid idea.

I've got some news for you. The same case can be argued for gravity. Let's stop talking about it because we don't know what it is, it has evaded our comprehension, and has broken all the rules we've given it. A more general case could be made for anything invented by man, even science.

Well, some have claimed "I think, therefore I am" as a validation of human existence. If we stop thinking when some wise authority says we must, it's pretty sure we will from then on have a lesser sort of existence.
The disparity between how much respect the average religious person demands and gives is startling (in my experience).
 
That is, there's no reason why I wouldn't want to believe. I'm no enemy of religion or people who believe in God. If it makes you happy, and doesn't hurt anyone else, go for it. I'd love to believe, like anyone else, that I'll live forever in a heavenly paradise with a bunch of really good friends who love each other, play lots of wicked board games together, share perfect food and lengthy warm embraces. Truly, I would. I tried to believe for a long time. I served an honest and faithful mission for the Mormon church, taught at the MTC, tried to be a good Mormon. For whatever reason, I just don't believe it's true, and my life has been a lot better since I accepted that reality and moved on.
 
I talk about Star Trek occasionally, even thogh that universe can't exist. In general, I have no objection to talking about what does exist. If someone tells me they spoke to Captain kirk (as opposed to an actor), I'll still think they are mistaken. If they tell me I need to speak to Captain Kirk, I'll tell them they are mistaken.

Gravity has empirical effects, and we know it exists because of them.

But seriously, if someone actually told you that Captain Kirk existed, and that they talked to him, would you really look at them and say (or in this case, type) the things that you say here? Again, who gives a rats butt hole if he thinks he talked to James T.?
 
The disparity between how much respect the average religious person demands and gives is startling (in my experience).

I think I'm an average religious person, and in fact, I really only demand that people leave my faith and my beliefs alone. Don't mock them. Don't disparage them. Don't generalize them. Don't demonize them.

In short, just don't be an *** hole. Seriously, is that really too much to ask?
 
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