Republicans and Fascism

[Jazz Spazz]

Huh? Trump didn’t put any such preconditions from what I see. Do you have the full transcripts? When I looked it up I didn’t see him make preconditions. If so, then I think this could be open for debate. He merely says that if you rob a store, you can expect the death penalty. Which is absurd. You understand that theft happens in other democratic countries and they somehow manage without executing such offenders, right? I certainly don’t want to live in a country where I could be caught in a crossfire between some grocery clerk emptying a clip on some kid stealing a pack of gum. Especially when you consider the racial implications of what Trump’s dog whistle is calling out to.

Trump animates California Republicans with calls to shoot people who rob stores

ANAHEIM, Calif. (AP) — In an occasionally dark and profane speech, Donald Trump on Friday sought to win over Republicans in California by complaining that rich people in Beverly Hills smell bad bec…

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But I guess it works because it gets empty headed dolts to **** their pants over “tough guy” talk like this.

You know you would be better off to cancel him than let him have this power over you in your life.

Your side are letting him beat them at their own game but cant beat him because he’s so terrible and unpredictable. If he was a normal guy he would be controllable. It’s pretty infuriating. He changed the rules.

Both sides are terrible. Two fighting mob bosses over control of our country and it doesn’t matter who wins because both will keep driving us into ruin. Let’s let them and argue about it as individuals which way we ruin ourselves is best every day! Brilliant!!!

 

[Deleted member 365]

You know you would be better off to cancel him than let him have this power over you in your life.

Your side are letting him beat them at their own game but cant beat him because he’s so terrible and unpredictable. If he was a normal guy he would be controllable. It’s pretty infuriating. He changed the rules.

Both sides are terrible. Two fighting mob bosses over control of our country and it doesn’t matter who wins because both will keep driving us into ruin. Let’s let them and argue about it as individuals which way we ruin ourselves is best every day! Brilliant!!!

Uh no.

One party actually supports liberal democracy while the other party wants to overthrow it (they already tried).
One candidate has been impeached twice, been indicted for 91 felonies, found liable for rape, and attempted to overturn the last election while the other candidate has not.

The two parties or candidates are not the same. Any person who says so just isn’t a serious person. Do better

 

[Jazz Spazz]

Uh no.

One party actually supports liberal democracy while the other party wants to overthrow it (they already tried).
One candidate has been impeached twice, been indicted for 91 felonies, found liable for rape, and attempted to overturn the last election while the other candidate has not.

The two parties or candidates are not the same. Any person who says so just isn’t a serious person. Do better

Same results. Be more honest.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Same results. Be more honest.

Same results? Not even close.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

Same results? Not even close.

Yea, my crap doesn’t stink either.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

Same results? Not even close.

Both parties are grinding this country into the ground and the saddest part is the fanaticism, zealotry, and arguments that happen at the community level now.

I hear more hatred and vitriol than platform and stance anymore.

Your hatred/anger posts really won’t convince me whatever you are peddling is sweet candy.

I watch for truth and not mere sophistry and that’s hard to find these days. Lots of wading. I find a nugget here and there. I’m clearly not mainstream though, most of what other people think is truth makes me squeamish.

I know where you stand Thriller, so clearly you don’t want it. I’m done here. Have fun.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Both parties are grinding this country into the ground and the saddest part is the fanaticism, zealotry, and arguments that happen at the community level now.

I hear more hatred and vitriol than platform and stance anymore.

Your hatred/anger posts really won’t convince me whatever you are peddling is sweet candy.

I watch for truth and not mere sophistry and that’s hard to find these days. Lots of wading. I find a nugget here and there. I’m clearly not mainstream though, most of what other people think is truth makes me squeamish.

I know where you stand Thriller, so clearly you don’t want it. I’m done here. Have fun.

But it’s not true that they’re “grinding the nation into the ground.” What measurables are you even using to make such a ridiculous claim? Why do you think I, like so many other experts in my field, hate the current illiberal version of the GOP? Do you ever ask yourself that? Do you think we just mindlessly hate the party and its cult leader for no reason? The lack of empathy and curiosity from folks who make this claim is consistent but it still never surprises me. It’s like you live in a different planet (or consume completely different media).

I know this won’t convince you, but you don’t need to trust in me. The nation’s top political scientists and experts are the ones warning us about the authoritarian turn of the GOP. We have two major political parties in this country; one is a standard liberal governing party and one is an outlier political party that has completely lost faith in liberal democracy.

The Republican Party is an authoritarian outlier

Compared to center-right parties in developed democracies, the GOP is dangerously far from normal.

www.vox.com

Seek better sources of information (not me, but some of the nation’s experts).

Some suggested reading. Have fun!
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[Red]

Democrats have completely ruined the word and concept of fascism. It's just something they use as an insult without even knowing what the word means. I just laugh at the stupid trigger word anymore. We get it... it's fun to say and makes you look smart... but maybe know what the word means before throwing it around like some quasi intellect. It was once a powerful word now it's useless and overdrawn by millennials.

This should really help you. The characteristics that identify a political movement as fascist, etc. If you’re really struggling to understand, this will help you, and others that may be in your position. A 7 minute education for you…..


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XTJNy_OrjE&pp=ygUSSXMgVHJ1bXAgYSBmYXNjaXN0

Also very helpful I hope…..

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpCKkWMbmXU

 

[Red]

But it’s not true that they’re “grinding the nation into the ground.” What measurables are you even using to make such a ridiculous claim? Why do you think I, like so many other experts in my field, hate the current illiberal version of the GOP? Do you ever ask yourself that? Do you think we just mindlessly hate the party and its cult leader for no reason? The lack of empathy and curiosity from folks who make this claim is consistent but it still never surprises me. It’s like you live in a different planet (or consume completely different media).

I know this won’t convince you, but you don’t need to trust in me. The nation’s top political scientists and experts are the ones warning us about the authoritarian turn of the GOP. We have two major political parties in this country; one is a standard liberal governing party and one is an outlier political party that has completely lost faith in liberal democracy.
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The Republican Party is an authoritarian outlier

Compared to center-right parties in developed democracies, the GOP is dangerously far from normal.

www.vox.com

Seek better sources of information (not me, but some of the nation’s experts).

Some suggested reading. Have fun!
Amazon product ASIN B06VX82JZHView: https://www.amazon.com/On-Tyranny-Timothy-Snyder-audiobook/dp/B06VX82JZH/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?adgrpid=56404288939&hvadid=617073469378&hvdev=m&hvlocphy=9029705&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=660505529157096054&hvtargid=kwd-362275887357&hydadcr=15184_13597695&keywords=on+tyranny&qid=1696074289&sr=8-1

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[One Brow]

Same results. Be more honest.

Same results in certain aspects, and if those aspects are what you value/abhor, I can understand why they would look the same. Both parties are clearly pro-corporate, pro-military, and have leaders who crave power and will engage in unfair practices (gerrymandering, voting rules, etc.) to maintain it.

In other aspects, they are very different. I hope you'll understand this means that I see a huge difference between them.

 

[SteakNEggs]

This should really help you. The characteristics that identify a political movement as fascist, etc. If you’re really struggling to understand, this will help you, and others that may be in your position. A 7 minute education for you…..


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XTJNy_OrjE&pp=ygUSSXMgVHJ1bXAgYSBmYXNjaXN0

Also very helpful I hope…..

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpCKkWMbmXU

Lol from the guy who pushed unconstitutional vaccine mandates and bullied others because they didn't wear a mask. Did you post that video?

You guys remember how Biden forced people to get a vaccine against their religion and now the courts are saying that he was unconstitutionally forcing people against their will to conform or get bullied, fired shunned and even some on this very thread called them murderers and they should be in jail? Is that fascism red? Thriller?

 

[Red]

Lol from the guy who pushed unconstitutional vaccine mandates and bullied others because they didn't wear a mask.

I never bullied a soul. Not once. I laid into my wife a lot, because she thought like people like you think- just laugh it all off, eff the CDC, yada, yada, yada. Now she’s dead, from Covid 19.