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I read through that thread, and still do not follow your inability to understand trolling. Unless you yourself are trolling by pretending to not understand it... which frankly seems the most likely thing to me (as I've mentioned before).
But, if our description of trolling still confuses you, please feel free to use this description instead:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)
Maybe the additional details presented there will help.
I suspect you misunderstood me then, but frankly I'm not sure which specific thing you are referring to.
Marty McFly
Well-Known Member
What a hack fest this is. Our mods are so bored that they have to have a meeting to discuss whether to infract Sloanfailed and I for giving one false rep? How is that trolling? Do you know what trolling is? It's an anonymous rep system. If you are going to make it all public anyway you might as well have Jason go into vBulletin and code it to be a public rep system.
How about giving Beantown some infractions for trolling? rainhut? ncoloradojazz? Come on.
How about giving Beantown some infractions for trolling? rainhut? ncoloradojazz? Come on.
C l u t c H 385
Banned
Cuz they dont troll?
Archie Moses
Well-Known Member
Backseat moderating?
Marty McFly
Well-Known Member
I'm passenger seat moderating, like in drivers ed. It's clear that I'd be a better mod than most of the current ones. How hard is it to set a few standard rules and follow them?
From post #31 of this thread:
colton said:
How do you know they haven't? I didn't check just now, but I'm fairly certain that those first two individuals, at least, have received recent infractions.
The Thriller
Well-Known Member
Just a question, but why is Beantown the target of sooooo many people here? All I get is that they disagree w/his views on marriage and evolution. Is it really that bad to share different views on a message board?
Anyone remember the Bark to the Future cartoon?
Anyone remember the Bark to the Future cartoon?
The Thriller
Well-Known Member
Found it! Ohhh how this brings me back. I believe there was a Indiana Jones cartoon and a MC hammer cartoon back in the day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SNhxGQa98E
It's too bad that they couldn't get the News's version of this song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SNhxGQa98E
It's too bad that they couldn't get the News's version of this song.
Marty McFly
Well-Known Member
How many times do we have to go over this? Different views are fine. Lots of people on here have them. It's not OK to target people and purposely offend them whether they be gay, transsexual, etc. The only exception is if they're a moran. Like Beantown.
The Thriller
Well-Known Member
Ok fair enough.
PearlWatson
Well-Known Member
How do I get me some rep around here?
I want to be popular and such as.
I want to be popular and such as.
Hopper
Banned
OK, Colton, briefly:
1. I start a thread and come back to it later.
2. Although the thread is now quiet, several posters have made a total of 5-6 comments in my absence.
3. I respond to the posts in the order I encounter them.
4. As soon as I post my 5th response, Kicky, who has apparently been silently observing me respond, jumps in and says I am "trolling" because I have made 5 posts in a row, and I git an infraction.
How is this "deliberately disrupting the board?" I'm simply making normal responses to prior posts.
When asked (in the thread locked by Jason) you said replying to separate posts separately would not be an infractable offense, unless I am mistaken.
This seems to be an entirely novel definition of "trolling" to me. Certainly nuthin in the FAQ's would suggest this was punishable.
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Hopper
Banned
Colton, I haven't read every word on that wiki page, but I do notice this:
"Application of the term troll is highly subjective. Some readers may characterize a post as trolling, while others may regard the same post as a legitimate contribution to the discussion, even if controversial. The term is often used as an ad hominem strategy to discredit an opposing position by attacking its proponent. Often, calling someone a troll makes assumptions about a writer's motives. Regardless of the circumstances, controversial posts may attract a particularly strong response from those unfamiliar with the robust dialogue found in some online, rather than physical, communities."
I don't know about you, but when I am told that the application of a term is "highly subjective," that itself raises questions about whether the term is "clear enough." As noted here, calling a poster a "troll" may itself be a "troll."
This again???
Wasn't that the topic of a 10 page thread which ended by Jason saying,
Jason said:
https://jazzfanz.com/showthread.php...ack-Rasp-Trout-and-Hopper-Taint-Thread/page10
I'm not going there again. Suffice it to say that you had been specifically warned about doing that, prior to receiving an infraction for it. And that at least three moderators felt that your posting style was indeed disrupting the usability of the board (in particular, if I recall correctly,we had received complaints by people who had you on ignore, but were completely unable to ignore you because of your posting so many messages in a row).
Hopper
Banned
Suffice it to say that you must not have read the warning I got, at least not carefully.
Just a helpful suggestion, quote someone's comment and respond to it, then quote the next in the same post and respond to it. Do that until you've caught up with everyone else's posts. Wallah! Now the mods will have to find a new way to victimize you.
C l u t c H 385
Banned
Sounds cold and impersonal.
a couple FYI's here, not just for Hopper, but for everybody who's raised some of these questions regarding warnings and infractions
1 - Unlike the OLD BOARD, the number of warnings/infractions a user has received is NOT displayed by their screen name. That's been mentioned a few times already - - but anyhow, it means that other posters generally have no idea how many times any individual poster has been warned.
2 - Specific to Hopper's comment above, unlike the old board, Warnings and Infractions are sent as Private Messages from the mod issuing it. Therefore, other mods cannot see what was sent beyond a VERY brief description. On the old board, all warnings/infractions were posted automatically in the Mod forum so everyone could see exactly what was said in the warning. The new board does not have that feature, so that unless a mod takes the time to actually post something in the forum or elsewhere, other mods have no idea what was actually said in the warning.
The bottom line is that 99% of the posters are able to follow the rules well enough not to rack up five infractions within a six month period and thus are able to avoid a permanent ban.