Rittenhouse

[Deleted member 365]

“Abolish the police”…….”let the police do their job”………..I don’t think what Rittenhouse did was smart or something we want to see more of at all. He was also within his legal rights and the jury got the case right. He is no hero and it’s garbage to prop him up as any type of hero. It’s also nonsensical for the left to say abolish the police and then want the police to do their job as they’re burning down businesses and terrorizing a city. And don’t give me the garbage that property destruction is okay for the right reasons. Rittenhouse had as much right to be there as any of the people burning **** down that night. No one would be dead had Rittenhouse not showed up. No one would be dead if everyone didn’t show up to riot that night either. The problem with the right is making things like Rittenhouse something to celebrate it’s not. The problem with the left is they think lawless destruction is okay for the right reasons and when **** goes bad they want to plead innocence as though looting and rioting may not end up causing violence.

“The left” wants to a abolish the police? Who justified property damage? Turn off Fox News man. Could you name a single Rep who campaigned on abolishing the police? How about senator? What was Biden’s position on that?

If you’re going to judge an entire… Party? Majority of the country’s population? On what some weirdo said in Minneapolis, then I got nothing more for ya.

There’s no ****ing justification for Rittenhouse to take the law into his own hands. Stop trying to blame “the left” on Vigilante behavior. Are you 3 years old? I wish some of you could grow up. This is not how citizens in democracies should behave. Our gun laws and emerging vigilante culture, is toxic. It’s going to kill more people. @Red do you know of another democracy that operates like this?

This isn’t going to end well. We’re already seeing it:


We’re going to see another Charlottesville or Oklahoma City bombing soon. Are you going to continue to justify it because “the left” made you? This is behavior that justifies any form of authoritarianism. Not good not good

 

[fishonjazz]

He was also within his legal rights

Is that true though? I could be wrong but I thought I heard that he broke some law simply by taking the gun over state lines (also thought I heard that the gun wasn't registered to him or something too)

 

[Dkeaton024]

Is that true though? I could be wrong but I thought I heard that he broke some law simply by taking the gun over state lines (also thought I heard that the gun wasn't registered to him or something too)

As far as what the jury was deciding he was within his legal rights. The gun charge in the trial was waved because of a state law that exempted the charge due to the length of the barrel. Now, I think that contradictory law is dumb and should be changed but as it stood the gun charge they tried to prosecute him for was thrown out because of a state law that dismissed it.

 

[Dkeaton024]

“The left” wants to a abolish the police? Who justified property damage? Turn off Fox News man. Could you name a single Rep who campaigned on abolishing the police? How about senator? What was Biden’s position on that?

If you’re going to judge an entire… Party? Majority of the country’s population? On what some weirdo said in Minneapolis, then I got nothing more for ya.

There’s no ****ing justification for Rittenhouse to take the law into his own hands. Stop trying to blame “the left” on Vigilante behavior. Are you 3 years old? I wish some of you could grow up. This is not how citizens in democracies should behave. Our gun laws and emerging vigilante culture, is toxic. It’s going to kill more people. @Red do you know of another democracy that operates like this?

This isn’t going to end well. We’re already seeing it:


We’re going to see another Charlottesville or Oklahoma City bombing soon. Are you going to continue to justify it because “the left” made you? This is behavior that justifies any form of authoritarianism. Not good not good

I don’t watch Fox News, I see leftists every day defend property damage on Twitter. Don’t naively pretend it’s not what leftists do. I voted for Joe Biden and the reason Biden took the stance he did is because it began hurting him in polls. Leftists are morons and a huge reason we can’t make progress because they turn everything good and noble into toxic conversations. Leftists are what they are. They absolutely defend the rioting and looting in the name of what they want to call as a push for progress. I’ve seen well more than a few defend it. I’m liberal, I’m not a leftist, because leftists are ****ing morons. And yes, leftists also routine make it clear they want to ABOLISH the police, not defund them. They couldn’t even get that by in Minneapolis as a ballot initiative because most people can’t stand their garbage rhetoric.

See, things like this are what leftist morons say and what turn needed conversations into divisive toxic garbage:



We can say Rittenhouse is an idiot, and he is not a hero in any way and also acknowledge the other things going on that night and the overall situation including the fact the jury got the verdict correct given the case and prosecution they were presented with. I’m not judging a party, including the one I usually vote for, I’m judging the extremist leftist morons within the group that are ruining it.

 

[Deleted member 365]

I don’t watch Fox News, I see leftists every day defend property damage on Twitter. Don’t naively pretend it’s not what leftists do. I voted for Joe Biden and the reason Biden took the stance he did is because it began hurting him in polls. Leftists are morons and a huge reason we can’t make progress because they turn everything good and noble into toxic conversations. Leftists are what they are. They absolutely defend the rioting and looting in the name of what they want to call as a push for progress. I’ve seen well more than a few defend it. I’m liberal, I’m not a leftist, because leftists are ****ing morons. And yes, leftists also routine make it clear they want to ABOLISH the police, not defund them. They couldn’t even get that by in Minneapolis as a ballot initiative because most people can’t stand their garbage rhetoric.

See, things like this are what leftist morons say and what turn needed conversations into divisive toxic garbage:



We can say Rittenhouse is an idiot, and he is not a hero in any way and also acknowledge the other things going on that night and the overall situation including the fact the jury got the verdict correct given the case and prosecution they were presented with. I’m not judging a party, including the one I usually vote for, I’m judging the extremist leftist morons within the group that are ruining it.

Lol. Leftists? What’s a leftist? Is Bernie sanders a leftist? How about Amy Klobachar? Joe Biden? What’s a leftist?

How did you get “abolish the police” from Kaep’s tweet? Is he a leftist? I don’t want to live in a society that celebrates vigilantism. Our gun laws are ****ed up.

But even if you interpret his tweet as being supportive of “abolishing then police”, what political office does he serve in? He’s a former football guy on Twitter. Democrats who actually make policy aren’t advocating for abolishing the police.

Could you name a single Rep who campaigned on defunding the police? Senator? What about Joe Biden? People on Twitter don’t count as we can’t even verify that they’re real people. Again, if that’s what you’re basing your opinion on, I got nothin for ya.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

Could you name a single Rep who campaigned on defunding the police?

Rashida Tlaib. Just to avoid confusion it isn't only "defund the police" but specific calls to abolish the police. She wants no police, no military, all incarcerated criminals to be immediately released, and all incarceration to be banned.

Rashida Tlaib calls for ‘no more police’ following Daunte Wright shooting

‘That’s not the president’s view,’ White House press secretary responds

news.yahoo.com

 

[fishonjazz]

Rashida Tlaib. Just to avoid confusion it isn't only "defund the police" but specific calls to abolish the police. She wants no police, no military, all incarcerated criminals to be immediately released, and all incarceration to be banned.

Rashida Tlaib calls for ‘no more police’ following Daunte Wright shooting

‘That’s not the president’s view,’ White House press secretary responds

news.yahoo.com

Well thats dumb. Sounds like she should join MTG on sidelines and get out of government. What a cuckoo

 

[gandalfe]

KR was not an active shooter.

What is the definition of active shooter you are using? Because his actions that night fit a fairly natural language definition of both of those words.

The standard definition used by law enforcement seems to be "an individual actively engaged in killing or attempting to kill people in a populated area." He was an individual, and he was definitely in a populated area. While his contention is, and a reasonable argument can be made that he was not ATTEMPTING to kill people, he was, in fact killing people.

 

[MTS]

Both sidesing this? Am I understanding this correctly? Could you expand a little more on what you mean here? I’m trying to understand.

The kid isn't a hero like the right is painting him, nor is he a fascist nazi like the left is painting him.

Fish's take is the obviously reasonable one.

My point is that people should stop letting their political party dictate their stance on literally every issue. Before the facts were even revealed in the trial, many conservatives were already convinced he was innocent, and many liberals were already convinced he was guilty.

Too few people waited for the facts to develop, and too few people are forming their opinion based on those facts.

 

[Dkeaton024]

Lol. Leftists? What’s a leftist? Is Bernie sanders a leftist? How about Amy Klobachar? Joe Biden? What’s a leftist?

How did you get “abolish the police” from Kaep’s tweet? Is he a leftist? I don’t want to live in a society that celebrates vigilantism. Our gun laws are ****ed up.

But even if you interpret his tweet as being supportive of “abolishing then police”, what political office does he serve in? He’s a former football guy on Twitter. Democrats who actually make policy aren’t advocating for abolishing the police.

Could you name a single Rep who campaigned on defunding the police? Senator? What about Joe Biden? People on Twitter don’t count as we can’t even verify that they’re real people. Again, if that’s what you’re basing your opinion on, I got nothin for ya.

Biden, and Klobachar are not, but leftists are beginning to exert their stupid ideas within those individuals. I wouldn’t consider Bernie a leftist either. It’s morons like AOC who are hard core leftists. Jemele Hill. Many of the prominent athletes. Leftism, doesn’t have to come from a politicians mouth to be a thing.

Also, who said I got “abolish police” from that specific tweet? It’s clear what Kapernick is, and he’s an self interested, agenda driven hack. Not everything Kapernick has done has been bad, but things like the tweet above are a toxic, intentionally divisive pile of leftist garbage that attempt to ignore the overall situation, in favor of pushing their ********.

As for defending it, calling what happened last summer “peaceful protesting” is the most delusional form of ******** I’ve ever seen. This kind of garbage ignores what actually happened in favor of a narrative and frankly it’s disgusting stuff:

“Peaceful protests” lol. The NBA deserved the 11 thousand comment ratio they received here. People aren’t that stupid and no one thinks the night this happened was peaceful no matter how many times anyone says it.

Getting rid of the police department was literally on the ballot in Minneapolis this last election cycle. Please don’t sit here and pretend it isn’t something within leftist thought. In fact, I’d say Bill Maher puts it pretty well. Leftists and their ridiculous ideology are real. Don’t sit here and pretend to me they are not and that it hasn’t put a hold over the party to an extent.

 

[Dkeaton024]

The kid isn't a hero like the right is painting him, nor is he a fascist nazi like the left is painting him.

Fish's take is the obviously reasonable one.

My point is that people should stop letting their political party dictate their stance on literally every issue. Before the facts were even revealed in the trial, many conservatives were already convinced he was innocent, and many liberals were already convinced he was guilty.

Too few people waited for the facts to develop, and too few people are forming their opinion based on those facts.

You are fully correct here, he’s neither a hero nor a white supremacist, but the logical ground is disappearing in favor of partisan, delusional “my team” reactions on everything.

 

[Red]

It’s disturbing to me that anyone would call Rittenhouse a hero. It’s disturbing not surprising that the right is exploiting this as a touchdown in their weird culture war.

Republican congressman from NC: “Be armed. Be dangerous. And be moral.”