Roe v. Wade is going down

[Deleted member 365]

Truly, I hope republicans run on this this midterm (they’re dropping the facade of “state’s rights” and are already pushing for a national ban) and I hope voters are paying attention. Abortion bans without any exception for rape and incest?

Rep. Michael Guest Pushes National Six-Week Abortion Ban, No Rape Exceptions

U.S. Rep. Michael Guest, R-Miss., is pushing Congress to pass a national "heartbeat" law banning abortions after six weeks.

www.mississippifreepress.org

U.S. Rep. Michael Guest, R-Miss., is pushing for Congress to adopt a nationwide ban on abortion once cardiac activity becomes detectable, or around the sixth week of pregnancy. The legislation is H.R. 705, The Heartbeat Protection Act.

“Our (U.S. Supreme) Court supports life,” Guest said on the U.S. House floor Monday. He said its decision to allow state abortion bans to go forward in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization last month means “we now have a legal system that has opened the door for a wave of pro-life support.”

Mississippi adopted a similar “heartbeat” law in 2019 that courts quickly blocked, citing the now-defunct Roe v. Wade precedent. While doctors can detect early cardiac activity at six weeks, “heartbeat” is a misnomer because a heart has not formed at that stage.

No Rape, Incest Exceptions​

Like the Mississippi law, the federal abortion ban Guest is co-sponsoring includes no exceptions for abortions in cases of rape or incest.

 

[Deleted member 365]

One of the best ways to prevent abortion is to use contraception. But even contraception Repubs are against. Only 8 Repubs voted with Dems just now to keep contraception legal…

CNN)The House voted Thursday to pass a bill that would guarantee access to contraception by protecting the right to buy and use contraceptives without government restriction.
The final vote was 228-195.
Eight Republicans crossed over to vote with Democrats.

I know gas prices and inflation. But if our country gives Repubs the power, they’re going to Ban this stuff.

View: https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1550145770283827200?s=21&t=-IrBkX-o_z8YDABWEe7mSw


Keep this in mind come fall!

 

[LogGrad98]

One of the best ways to prevent abortion is to use contraception. But even contraception Repubs are against. Only 8 Repubs voted with Dems just now to keep contraception legal…


I know gas prices and inflation. But if our country gives Repubs the power, they’re going to Ban this stuff.

View: https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1550145770283827200?s=21&t=-IrBkX-o_z8YDABWEe7mSw


Keep this in mind come fall!

To me this kind of thing just confirrms that our politics are no longer about any real issues but rather about knocking the other side down. All they care about is party line and even if the party line isn't clear the next step is vote against anything the other party wants. I mean, I guess contraception is ok, no big deal....wait a minute, they want to make a law about it? Well **** THAT!!! Where is that ****ing no button?!?!?





Can I say that I hate that all these GIF websites have now made it impossible to embed gifs anymore? ****ers.

 

[Deleted member 365]

To me this kind of thing just confirrms that our politics are no longer about any real issues but rather about knocking the other side down. All they care about is party line and even if the party line isn't clear the next step is vote against anything the other party wants. I mean, I guess contraception is ok, no big deal....wait a minute, they want to make a law about it? Well **** THAT!!! Where is that ****ing no button?!?!?





Can I say that I hate that all these GIF websites have now made it impossible to embed gifs anymore? ****ers.

I think one could describe this as being reactionary. They don’t have any conservative ideology anymore. It’s just reactionary. Whatever the other team is proposing, they’re against.

Oh so you want contraception? Nope!
Oh you want to legislate gay marriage? No way.
Guns? Nope, states can’t handle that only the federal government.
Abortion? Nope, federal government can’t handle that it’s a state right issue.

We need a healthy two party system but we sadly don’t have that right now.

 

[Deleted member 365]

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And why shouldn’t it be? If abortion isn’t specifically mentioned in the constitution then most “rights” we’ve gained in the last 200 years should be left to the states. Interracial marriage is an easy choice. Why isn’t it considered a state issue? If you believe abortion should be a state issue then why isn’t contraception, desegregation, and all marriage laws (gay and/or interracial) be decided by states?

And why stop there? Abolish the FDA. Having safe food and drugs isn’t specifically mentioned in the constitution. Let every state monitor its drugs and food. Let every state choose its own currency. The interstate highway system isn’t mentioned by the constitution, so abolish all federal funding of roads. Abolish all national parks, you know, state’s rights. Social security and Medicare/Medicaid aren’t specifically mentioned in the constitution. So return the responsibility of paying for grandma’s healthcare to states, families, and churches. Let’s go back to the articles of confederation and let every state be it’s one country.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

And why stop there? Abolish the FDA. Having safe food and drugs isn’t specifically mentioned in the constitution. Let every state monitor its drugs and food.

It is covered under Article 1, Section 8, Clause 3 of the constitution. The remainder of the rant is also uninformed but here is a possibly related story:

With Plunging Enrollment, a ‘Seismic Hit’ to Public Schools

The pandemic has supercharged the decline in the nation’s public school system in ways that experts say will not easily be reversed.

www.nytimes.com

Thankfully it appears parents are realizing what a bad idea is was to fill the teaching ranks with uninformed individuals who put more effort into twitter-fueled indoctrination than in to actually teaching math and reading. Even before COVID-19 gave teachers the excuse to make it harder for students to learn, the poor quality of teachers was having an impact.

ACT shows decline in students ready for college

Percentage of students who have met English and math benchmarks lowest in 15 years.

www.insidehighered.com

 

[LogGrad98]

It is covered under Article 1, Section 8, Clause 3 of the constitution. The remainder of the rant is also uninformed but here is a possibly related story:

With Plunging Enrollment, a ‘Seismic Hit’ to Public Schools

The pandemic has supercharged the decline in the nation’s public school system in ways that experts say will not easily be reversed.

www.nytimes.com

Thankfully it appears parents are realizing what a bad idea is was to fill the teaching ranks with uninformed individuals who put more effort into twitter-fueled indoctrination than in to actually teaching math and reading. Even before COVID-19 gave teachers the excuse to make it harder for students to learn, the poor quality of teachers was having an impact.

ACT shows decline in students ready for college

Percentage of students who have met English and math benchmarks lowest in 15 years.

www.insidehighered.com

Looks like more inequality at play.

Test results are still divided along lines of race and wealth. The majority of minority, low-income or first-generation students met one or zero of the College Readiness Benchmarks.

Hispanic, and more so, African American students continue to lag behind their white and Asian American counterparts. Just over half of the 2019 graduates who took the test were white.

Too bad these kids don't have the advantages the white students do. If we could balance that out it would create an immediate gain the test results. Not sure how much that has to do with bad teachers.

 

[One Brow]

Thankfully it appears parents are realizing what a bad idea is was to fill the teaching ranks with uninformed individuals who put more effort into twitter-fueled indoctrination than in to actually teaching math and reading.

Putting aside you ignorance/mischaracterization of what schools of education teach, does this mean you oppose how Florida is responding to the teacher shortage?

Veterans can now teach in Florida with no degree. School leaders say it 'lowers the bar'

Military veterans can now become teachers in Florida Public Schools for five years without a bachelor's degree.

www.heraldtribune.com

 

[Al-O-Meter]

Looks like more inequality at play. Too bad these kids don't have the advantages the white students do. If we could balance that out it would create an immediate gain the test results. Not sure how much that has to do with bad teachers.

It has everything to do with bad teachers. The group most responsible for shutting down schools, even after it became clear children are both at near zero risk and not a substantial vector of transmission, has been teacher's unions. Children living in two-parent households, and especially those with financial resources, where better able to weather the union-dictated school closures. The undeniable result of the teacher's union's lobbying is a massive expansion of the educational achievement gap. If disparate outcomes is indicative of racism, then no single group in this country is more racist than teachers because no single group's actions can rival the level is disparity directly created by the effort to shut down public schools.

If you want to talk across-the-board failure to educate children, that is bad teachers. If you want to blame it on "inequality", all you are doing is finding a different way to blame teachers.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

Putting aside you ignorance/mischaracterization of what schools of education teach, does this mean you oppose how Florida is responding to the teacher shortage?

Veterans can now teach in Florida with no degree. School leaders say it 'lowers the bar'

Military veterans can now become teachers in Florida Public Schools for five years without a bachelor's degree.

www.heraldtribune.com

No, because I don't equate a degree with being informed. I have known far too many crazy smart people who don't have a degree, and too many morons who posses a degree to believe they go hand-in-hand. Some of the corporations who snap up the brightest minds have also dropped degree requirements. They too realize what a crap job modern teachers are doing to actually educate the next generation. Florida is aptly recognizing the environment and making adjustments to adjust to it. We will see if Florida test scores start to rise.

 

[One Brow]

No, because I don't equate a degree with being informed.

Of course. You can always count on conservatives to dismiss what a difficult job teaching really is.

 

[LogGrad98]

Of course. You can always count on conservatives to dismiss what a difficult job teaching really is.

What's funny is the single most conservative guy I know, my BIL, is a teacher and was actually part of the teachers union leadership in his state for a while. Exactly the opposite I would expect. Of course now he is an elementary school principal, which was what he aspired to all along (the principal part, not necessarily the elementary school part). By all accounts he was an effective and beloved teacher, and he is a good administrator, but one who happens to think something like QAnon could actually be a thing, without full on admitting he believes in it. Crazy.