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Ron Paul wins Iowa, Minnesota. . . . and Texas.

babe

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Ron Paul has understood the system he is in. Four years ago, with a substantial number of delegates won in the trenches, the Republican Party wouldn't let them in at the convention that proclaimed McCain their choice. He knew the media would not give him the gift worth millions in advertising. . . . free publicity.

So he has done his battle on the ground, and continues to do better than the media will admit, or report.

The GOP is facing another top-down election with a "chosen" elitist at the top of the ticket who is pretty much poison to their future as a party, while a growing number of the grass roots are snowballing into a cohesive political movement that will revolutionize, that is, seize control of the GOP during the next presidential cycle, when whoever is in the President's chair is clearly not a real American. Well, defined as someone who believes in human rights, like the American Revolution was all about.

Here's a little "news" leaking through the curtain of silence:

https://www.policymic.com/articles/7394/ron-paul-won-iowa-and-minnesota-in-fact/related

Ron Paul will be taking a majority of the delegates from Minnesota, Iowa, Maine, Colorado, and Texas to Tampa, with a key committed supporter from Colorado taking a seat on the rules committee, and many other committed grass roots people taking influential positions within the Party.

Perhaps the most vile rumor the conservative/tea party supporters of Newt floated was the "news" that Romney and Paul have a positive relationship and have not actually been doing a lot of negative rhetoric against each other, at least in the form of personal attacks.

I am beginning to think Romney will decide he has to cover the middle himself, and choose Paul as his running mate to keep those dedicated Ron Paul supporters and a lot of Bible-belt conservatives on the team. He would also get a lot of young and democratic supporters who are focused on personal liberties and stopping the senseless foreign wars.

But would he still get the financial support from the banks, the MIC corporates, and other moderate closet "progressives".
 
I am beginning to think Romney will decide he has to cover the middle himself, and choose Paul as his running mate to keep those dedicated Ron Paul supporters and a lot of Bible-belt conservatives on the team.

Doubt that...

Romney will either go after someone like Christie or the Hispanic vote (Marco Rubio). My guess will be the Hispanic vote. Romney needs more than just old rich white people to vote for him.
 
Ron Paul will be taking a majority of the delegates from Minnesota, Iowa, Maine, Colorado, and Texas to Tampa, with a key committed supporter from Colorado taking a seat on the rules committee, and many other committed grass roots people taking influential positions within the Party.

Why does this mean anything?

Unless you're asserting Romney won't win a first ballot convention vote I'm not sure where you're going with this.
 
Why does this mean anything?

Unless you're asserting Romney won't win a first ballot convention vote I'm not sure where you're going with this.

It means some very dedicated people are working very hard for Ron Paul, and not giving up at all. It means Ron Paul supporters are getting effective within local party politics all over this country, and will continue their effort, and will continue to make gains within the party.

They are not going to quit until their votes are cast and counted at Tampa.

Romney has a lot of very strong negatives in most Republican minds, and most core Republican voters really don't want the RNC and Bush dynasty program.

Ron Paul folks in Texas are talking about the Harding event 92 years ago, and it makes a lot of sense to a whole lot of Republicans, particularly in the Bible belt.

The GOP party elite, as comprised by Bush power connections and other RINO insiders, are making a huge mistake, and probably just handing the election to Obama by essentially trying to run a Bush protege in pretty awesome contempt for what a lot of Americans want in their government.

Obama and his smarter people are all smiles now. Romney is vulnerable on so many important respects, and will get practically no enthusiasm from the very people who could get out the conservative vote. Running an imperceptibly different choice is just another way of offering people no choice.

Unless Romney has the guts, the smarts, and the influence to get a running mate who can mobilize the real Republican base, he's toast.
 
It means some very dedicated people are working very hard for Ron Paul, and not giving up at all. It means Ron Paul supporters are getting effective within local party politics all over this country, and will continue their effort, and will continue to make gains within the party.

They are not going to quit until their votes are cast and counted at Tampa.

Romney has a lot of very strong negatives in most Republican minds, and most core Republican voters really don't want the RNC and Bush dynasty program.

Ron Paul folks in Texas are talking about the Harding event 92 years ago, and it makes a lot of sense to a whole lot of Republicans, particularly in the Bible belt.

The GOP party elite, as comprised by Bush power connections and other RINO insiders, are making a huge mistake, and probably just handing the election to Obama by essentially trying to run a Bush protege in pretty awesome contempt for what a lot of Americans want in their government.

Obama and his smarter people are all smiles now. Romney is vulnerable on so many important respects, and will get practically no enthusiasm from the very people who could get out the conservative vote. Running an imperceptibly different choice is just another way of offering people no choice.

Unless Romney has the guts, the smarts, and the influence to get a running mate who can mobilize the real Republican base, he's toast.

That right there rules out Paul. You do not have to like that but it is a fact. He energizes you, clearly, and that is fantastic. However he clearly does not "mobilize" the "republican base".
 
That right there rules out Paul. You do not have to like that but it is a fact. He energizes you, clearly, and that is fantastic. However he clearly does not "mobilize" the "republican base".

Nope, you need to support closed borders, deporting and dehumanizing Hispanics, saving Christmas, and keeping gays from getting married to do that! Let freedom ring!
 
Nope, you need to support closed borders, deporting and dehumanizing Hispanics, saving Christmas, and keeping gays from getting married to do that! Let freedom ring!

Sarcasm aside it is clear that while Paul does have a rabid following he does not have the republican base.
 
Why does this mean anything?

Unless you're asserting Romney won't win a first ballot convention vote I'm not sure where you're going with this.

It means the PaulBots support democracy so much that they're willing to game the system by securing delegate seats and voting Ron Paul against the vote of the constituency they represent. Vladimir Newtin is claiming the same ****. This is the extent these people are willing to go to get their precious government guarantee on the value of their accumulated wealth.
 
It's actually reassuring to me that there are different opinions on the subject. Maybe America isn't totally hopeless.

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So Newt is dropping out and preparing to endorse Romney. Texas governor Rick Perry has endorsed Romney. The whole flock of CFR candidates who have run interference on the Ron Paul campaign, creating various sorts of "true conservative" alternatives who have been hyped by the media as less "scary" than one honest man, are all on-board with Romney now.

Four years ago I was just heartsick at the Republican Party, the RINO Party in my view, the "closet progressive party" in other words, the tweedle dum to the tweedle dem. . . . when Ron Paul's delegates were excluded from the convention. I said "that outta do it for Paul's daliance with the GOP". But no, he hung in there, with thousands of dedicated grass roots trench diggers and a whole flock of idealistic kids who still want freedom and no more useless wars.

I might not have the power to define the "Republican Party" once and for all, not to preclude what people may do with it in the future. I went to it because Ron Paul was there. I'd really rather be a democrat, but people like Clinton and Jay Rockefeller who are just unabashed servile "elitist" tools, and all the outright "progressive" claptrap rhetoric just make me feel real dirty being there, too.

But believe them, there is a huge movement in America of people who don't want what we have now, realizing it is derailed democracy/representative governance. Who want their government back, and their rights, and the original American foreign policy of "commerce with all, alliance with none".

Will the real American Independence Party just show up already?
 
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