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Celebrity culture=tinsel culture. Celebrity culture is one of the problems with America, IMHO. Who gives a rat's *** what a Hollywood celebrity thinks about the issues of the day? And celebrity culture spit out Donald Trump for our consumption as well.

I watch their movies and listen to their songs but that’s it. Never watched a celeb interview, awards show or any of that other crap.
 
The difference I see is when Weiner's sex abuse came out he was dropped like a hot potato, and is now in prison. Roy Moore has surrogates in Alabama saying that having sex with 14 year olds is "much ado about nothing." Oh yeah, and Trump was made president after he was caught on tape bragging about sexual assault.

I don't think anyone is making the case that there aren't men capable of horrors on both sides, it's just that one side seems a little more interested in holding them accountable. Maybe pointing that out makes me a partisan *******, but it seems like there is some serious moral rot in the GOP these days.

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Right? That’s whats disgusting to me.

You have repubs trying to justify his actions by claiming “Joseph and Mary did it” or that the “14 year old gave consent” (Hannity). It seems like parts of one political side is condoning this just like they condoned Donnie’s “grab em by the *****.”

And now Moore’s Brother is comparing his brother’s suffering to Jesus’ unfair persecution.

I mean at some point repubs need to admit that losing an election isn’t as bad as empowering a pedophile, right?

Donnie really could shoot someone in the street and his cult following would rationalize it. Thankfully people like mitt Romney are standing up against against Moore

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/roy-moores-brother-to-cnn-hes-being-persecuted-like-jesus/
 
I watch their movies and listen to their songs but that’s it. Never watched a celeb interview, awards show or any of that other crap.

i used to watch and love award shows. but then they started preaching how my logical ideology and lifestyle is immoral. and i am scum of the earth. i am a nazi. i am masognist. i wnana control womens body! so i stopped watching. sometimes i also stop watching tv shows if they get overly one sided political!
 
I've been through something similar to what Log described. It was horrible. I feel terrible for any woman, man or child who has been sexually abused, and I also feel terrible for anyone who has been wrongly accused of abuse. There are definitely people in both categories.

Oh yeah, there are people in both categories? Can you give me a ratio?
 
If then-ism. What about-ism. So what-ism....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...e285c7f4512_story.html?utm_term=.1392cd3ad58a

Trump’s conveniently flexible standard on accusations — and he is not alone — boils down to: If the accuser points a finger at a Democrat — Bill Clinton, Harvey Weinstein — her word is to be trusted, automatically. If she complains about a Republican, Trump’s otherwise dormant devotion to due process kicks in. How can claims from “many years ago” be allowed to “destroy a person’s life”?

Some answers: Because they are entirely credible. Because the girl, now a woman, has no conceivable ax to grind — she is a longtime Republican, a Trump voter even — and nothing to gain from coming forward. Because three other women related similar, although less disturbing stories, underscoring Moore’s interest in younger girls......

.......you are a politician dealing with a story you wish would go away. Then you turn instinctively to if-then-ism. “If these allegations are true . . .” said Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), leading — or not — his prove-it caucus. Disappointingly, among them were women senators who ought to know better. “If it’s true . . .” said Alaska’s Lisa Murkowski. “If the allegations . . .” said West Virginia’s Shelley Moore Capito. “If there is any truth at all to these horrific allegations . . .” said Maine’s Susan Collins. Seriously, have you read this article? How can you think about serving alongside this man?

....If-then-ism is the rhetorical cousin of what-about-ism, a bid to deflect attention by questioning whether those complaining about “x” were equally inflamed by “y,” when “y” involved someone on their side. If-then-ism represents a similar effort to avoid casting a politically inconvenient judgment.

It is better, sure, than the jaw-dropping alternative: so-what-ism, remarkably flagrant among Alabamians in response to the Moore report. “Much ado about nothing,” State Auditor Jim Zeigler told the Washington Examiner. Joseph did it with Mary, he observed. Except, um, minor theological point here — did he?

Still, there is something clarifying in the brutal honesty of so-what-ism. A 32-year-old Moore could put a 14-year-old girl’s hand on his erect penis and touch her over her bra and underpants. Trump could shoot someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue. It would not deter their supporters. Okay, at least we know where you’re coming from. Your moral parameters are clear in their absence....
 
It’s pretty crazy that sok non the right are accusing the post of libel. The story has over 30 sources on the record.

If Moore really wants to clear his name, why not sue the post? I think we all know the answer to that.
 
He's a HS SS teacher, I believe. His degree was in Thrilling.

Are you talking about me? That’s where I started but that’s not where I am now. Why?

Edit: Awww. I understand now. Sorry, I’ve had Archie on block for about one week now.
 
If then-ism. What about-ism. So what-ism....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...e285c7f4512_story.html?utm_term=.1392cd3ad58a

Trump’s conveniently flexible standard on accusations — and he is not alone — boils down to: If the accuser points a finger at a Democrat — Bill Clinton, Harvey Weinstein — her word is to be trusted, automatically. If she complains about a Republican, Trump’s otherwise dormant devotion to due process kicks in. How can claims from “many years ago” be allowed to “destroy a person’s life”?

Some answers: Because they are entirely credible. Because the girl, now a woman, has no conceivable ax to grind — she is a longtime Republican, a Trump voter even — and nothing to gain from coming forward. Because three other women related similar, although less disturbing stories, underscoring Moore’s interest in younger girls......

.......you are a politician dealing with a story you wish would go away. Then you turn instinctively to if-then-ism. “If these allegations are true . . .” said Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), leading — or not — his prove-it caucus. Disappointingly, among them were women senators who ought to know better. “If it’s true . . .” said Alaska’s Lisa Murkowski. “If the allegations . . .” said West Virginia’s Shelley Moore Capito. “If there is any truth at all to these horrific allegations . . .” said Maine’s Susan Collins. Seriously, have you read this article? How can you think about serving alongside this man?

....If-then-ism is the rhetorical cousin of what-about-ism, a bid to deflect attention by questioning whether those complaining about “x” were equally inflamed by “y,” when “y” involved someone on their side. If-then-ism represents a similar effort to avoid casting a politically inconvenient judgment.

It is better, sure, than the jaw-dropping alternative: so-what-ism, remarkably flagrant among Alabamians in response to the Moore report. “Much ado about nothing,” State Auditor Jim Zeigler told the Washington Examiner. Joseph did it with Mary, he observed. Except, um, minor theological point here — did he?

Still, there is something clarifying in the brutal honesty of so-what-ism. A 32-year-old Moore could put a 14-year-old girl’s hand on his erect penis and touch her over her bra and underpants. Trump could shoot someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue. It would not deter their supporters. Okay, at least we know where you’re coming from. Your moral parameters are clear in their absence....

One prominent republican in Alabama said that he would trust Putin over the WaPost.

Sombasically, this is exactly like the Access Hollywood tapes. The majority of repubs will overlook this in order to win. Electing a pedophile is preferable to electing a democrat.
 
Oh yeah, there are people in both categories? Can you give me a ratio?
Yeah, because even in those cases where no accusation has ever been made I have this intrinsic knowledge that something inappropriate happened and the degree to which it occurred. Unfortunately this power is so magnificent that it would cause society to collapse if I were ever to use it in a public way, so I have to keep the information mostly to myself. I can, however, reveal is that I know of women who have been devastated by having been sexually abused, and I know of men who have been devastated by being accused of sexual abuse that they did not commit. I'm not sure this information should be that surprising, though. Did you know that there are also people who have been incarcerated and even killed for murders that they did not commit? Not exactly a pleasant experience for an innocent person.
 
Yeah, because even in those cases where no accusation has ever been made I have this intrinsic knowledge that something inappropriate happened and the degree to which it occurred. Unfortunately this power is so magnificent that it would cause society to collapse if I were ever to use it in a public way, so I have to keep the information mostly to myself. I can, however, reveal is that I know of women who have been devastated by having been sexually abused, and I know of men who have been devastated by being accused of sexual abuse that they did not commit. I'm not sure this information should be that surprising, though. Did you know that there are also people who have been incarcerated and even killed for murders that they did not commit? Not exactly a pleasant experience for an innocent person.

Ratio pls
 
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