Rubio traded to Jazz

[fishonjazz]

We might as well open the Kiss Hayward Goodbye thread. What an unmitigated disaster! I absolutely hate this. And we gave them a first round pick for the pleasure of clearing space for them. WOW!

We might as well calm down

 

[fishonjazz]

Yeah, on paper we got him for nothing. In reality, we got him by closing the door for Hill (and possibly Hayward).

Maybe the door for hill was already closed doe?

 

[NUMBERICA]

Opposed to, if Hayward's gone? Cool. Great. We have a lotto protected pick next year. Awesome.

Yeah, I'd much rather have that. And the salary. I'd want to mothball Gobert and tank too because treadmilling is *********.

 

[fishonjazz]

How could Hill be in our plans? Assuming we re-sign Hill, Hayward and Ingles we are already over the luxury tax assuming 1) Diaw is waived and 2) Burks is dealt for nothing. Then add in Rubio at $14M. Yeah, Hill ain't coming back unless the Millers are now Paul Allen.

Is there a no trade clause with this acquisition of rubio?

 

[NUMBERICA]

So how does that work exactly, on a promise and a prayer?

Better than Hayward being checked out before he even sits down on Monday.

The Jazz know a lot that we don't so... hooray for that.

 

[fishonjazz]

In before rubio only plays the same amount of games or less than Hill

Of course you are. Negative nancy. Shad gonna shad

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Pros:
-Unique player
-Fun to watch because of creativity with handle and passing ability
-Adds new element of defense the Jazz lack with disruptive ability to play passing lanes
-Should influence the Jazz to play with a faster pace
-Decent enough FT rate despite lack of scoring ability (and an upper tier FT shooter)
-Respectable pull-up game from midrange
-Perfect age with rest of core

Cons:
-Can't finish around the rim
-Poor spot-up shooter
-Injury history

 

[baka98]

Anybody see Pelton's grade on the trade and report?

 

[fishonjazz]

Not I. I only wanted it used to upgrade the team.

You think simply adding rubio for, let's say mack, is a not an improvement? Tough crowd.

 

[Bawse Dawg]

Maybe the door for hill was already closed doe?

Or maybe they thought he doesn't deserve to be paid like a top 5 point guard in the league, which is true.

I love Hayward and hope he stays. But if he would really leave because we didn't give Hill a contract.. the dude is not LeBron James. We have been a very good organization for him. We've built a team around him, we can offer him generational wealth.

If he says "I'd be more interested in returning if the PG situation was more settled" awesome.

If he says "Sign my boy to a contract he doesn't deserve or I'm out" ehhhhh.

 

[MTS]

And neither will the Jazz if Hayward leaves. The Wolves also started two bigs who could step out and hit midrange shots, with KAT being able to hit 3's.

It's very obviously another matter entirely if Hayward leaves.

My point was that Utah's offense would be fine if Hayward stays. It was close to league average during the games Hill missed, and Rubio is still a significant upgrade to a team's offense compared to the likes of Mack/Neto/Exum.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

They bowed out of Hill, who is a proven winner and perfect fit with the Jazz because they didnt want to get in a bidding war with San Antonio (and whoever else may have wanted Hill).

Of course they will paint it as a pure basketball decision, but it signals financial doubt.

You want 70% of the cap committed to Hill, Hayward, and Gobert?