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Rubio traded to Jazz

I think this is a (serious) mistake. The grade for the offseason is an A if Gordon stays and an F if he leaves.

If Hayward re-signs, great. But I'm pretty sure Hill is a Timberwolf now.
 
Bawse Dawg said:
Ehhh. That's not how I look at it.

Jazz did it because it was an obvious move to make.
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They bowed out of Hill, who is a proven winner and perfect fit with the Jazz because they didnt want to get in a bidding war with San Antonio (and whoever else may have wanted Hill).

Of course they will paint it as a pure basketball decision, but it signals financial doubt.
 
If Hayward leaves which I suspect he will, don't condemn the front office for signing Rubio instead of Hill. That demand was just window dressing as far as I see it, and Hayward was going to do his thing regardless. Got a topnotch point guard for nothing next year as opposed to overpaying for a guy that played 26 fewer games last year due to injury with a lot more tread miles on him as well. This is the the Jazz way and I for one commend them for not being hornswaggled into becoming possibly the next Nets or Knicks contract debacle.
 
MT Steve said:
Food for thought: Minnesota didn't have much in the way of shooting last year either, and their offense on a per possession basis was even better than ours.
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And neither will the Jazz if Hayward leaves. The Wolves also started two bigs who could step out and hit midrange shots, with KAT being able to hit 3's.
 
God damn it. I really don't like this. This has bad spelled all over it.

By the way, if Hayward's gone? Cool. Great. We have Ricky Rubio. Awesome.
 
Release the Kraken said:
If Hayward leaves which I suspect he will, don't condemn the front office for signing Rubio instead of Hill. That demand was just window dressing as far as I see it, and Hayward was going to do his thing regardless. Got a topnotch point guard for nothing next year as opposed to overpaying for a guy that played 26 fewer games last year due to injury with a lot more tread miles on him as well. This is the the Jazz way and I for one commend them for not being hornswaggled into becoming possible the next Nets or Knicks contract debacle.
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I would bet you every dollar I could ever make for the rest of my life the Jazz wouldn't sign Hill without having Hayward in tow. That makes absolutely no sense.

That package deal, by the way, the one that was one of the few certain advantages in negotiations? They just lost that.
 
infection said:
I view this as trading Hill for Rubio. I don't really care about the pick. Hill much better fit. Cy hit nail on the head about Jefferson trade. I wanted Boozer to walk and let Millsap step up. I'm never a big fan of acquiring talent that doesn't fit just to acquire talent. I think the fit of Hill is worth $7M more per year. We lack shooting and now have 30 mins per game of someone who can't shoot (coupled with Gobert). If someone can reference the last time this franchise had any moderate success with a PG who couldn't shoot.
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One thing no one is talking about cause no one could really know is the chance that Hayward prefers rubio over hill.

We all heard reports that Hayward really likes hill and wants him back. But it's not like we have heard one way or tyne other about Hayward's feeling about rubio. Maybe DL asked hayward what he thinks of rubio and hayward said that he has been a huge rubio fan forever and would love to play with rubio. Maybe hayward flat out told DL that he would rather have rubio than hill.

No one knows really. I'm gonna trust DL for now.
 
Shad said:
Dont get too excited guys. This dude has more injuries than Hill
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Played in 75 games last year. Of course you will always find the negative in everything. Good job.
(Also played in 76 games the great before last and played in all 82 one year)
 
NUMBERICA said:
I would bet you every dollar I could ever make for the rest of my life the Jazz wouldn't sign Hill without having Hayward in tow. That makes absolutely no sense.

That package deal, by the way, the one that was one of the few certain advantages in negotiations? They just lost that.
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So how does that work exactly, on a promise and a prayer?
 
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