Rudy at range?

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  1. phippsj

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    Steven Adams
     

  2. Stoked

    Stoked Well-Known Member Contributor 2018 Award Winner

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    I trust Snyder to use his powers wisely.
     
  3. Saint Cy of JFC

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    He did fine against Adams at his current size.

    Surviving on switches against guards is far more important.
     
  4. Saint Cy of JFC

    Saint Cy of JFC Well-Known Member

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    15 lbs is never nothing.
     
  5. str8line

    str8line Well-Known Member Contributor

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    How many knee problems did Shaq have? He gained almost 100 lbs. Rudy would be better with an extra 15 pounds of muscle. Especially if he works it into his core and glutes/legs.
     
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  6. JazzMan4Life

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    A) Comparing lbs. between Rudy and Shaq is stupid.

    B) Adding 15 pounds of muscle *especially in the glutes/legs* on someone like Rudy is not as easy as you may think.
     
  7. Saint Cy of JFC

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    Shaqs career was cut way short because of his weight.

    Favors experienced his worst season because of being too heavy and developing a chronic knee issue.

    The negatives of a heavier Rudy far outweighs the positive.
     
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  8. KqWIN

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    Defensive footwork on the perimeter should be the area Rudy puts the most work into. He has no fundamentals out there in addition to being super long and awkward.
     
  9. Saint Cy of JFC

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    Rudy does an excellent job for his size. Saying he doesn't posses fundamentals on switches is just wrong.
     
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  10. addictionary

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    Yes especially if his joints and body base are not built for a heavier structure. Back spasms early on and knee issues are the main thing for longer players. Getting heavier doesn't help. Each time he hits the ground, the impact is more tense.
     
  11. KqWIN

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    I have to disagree. When he gets out on a switch you can tell he doesn't know what to do. He gets happy feet and starts doing the thing where he's moving in place. He gets turned around and wrong footed so much, and I'm not convinced it's because of his foot speed. When Rudy is in the paint, he can rotate his body in a cone super fast and defend multiple actions in different directions. It's because he knows what to do and has good instincts.

    He doesn't know what he's doing out there. It makes sense because it's not something he's ever been asked to do in his career and probably didn't practice it much. If he works on it, he'll get better. This is where Rudy can look at Stevens Adams for inspiration. Adams was a total goof on the perimeter early on in his career, but he was able to stop us over and over on switches in the PO's because he made it a point of emphasis and developed those fundamentals.
     
  12. phippsj

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    He was overpowered repeatedly. The additional strength would likely not reduce his lateral quickness.
     
  13. str8line

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    Shaq played 19 seasons. "Cut way short"?

    He scored 46 points in a game in his second-to-last season.

    Favors was out of shape, soft, not even close to the shape he was in this season.

    We're talking about 15 pounds of lean muscle on an already lean 7-footer and you're claiming the negatives "far outweigh the positives"?
     
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  14. Saint Cy of JFC

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    Gobert could add 40 lbs and he's still going to "overpowered" at times. He handled Adams just fine. Additional weight does affect quickness.
     
  15. str8line

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  16. Saint Cy of JFC

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    I swear people have selective memory.
     
  17. Saint Cy of JFC

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  18. Saint Cy of JFC

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    This isn't the 00's or 90's. Achieving maximum weight is no longer optimal for big men.
     
  19. str8line

    str8line Well-Known Member Contributor

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    LOL. OK, stop the video at 20 seconds. FREAKIN HUGE!
     
  20. str8line

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    I agree that Rudy wouldn't need much more than 15-20 pounds. Kevin Garnett comes to mind as maintaining a light build throughout his career. He is listed on Wiki at 6'11" and 240 pounds. Rudy is listed at 7'1" and 245 pounds.
     

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