Rudy Gobert 5 years, $205M




Thee Idiotic Minivan K

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Thought I’d put this here. Rudy would’ve fit in well in the 90’s. No one outside of France or the jazz seem to like Gobert. Lol. Embiid doesn’t think Gobert should’ve made all nba over him

Embiid’s own words.

“I agree that Anthony Davis had a better season than me. [Nikola] Jokic? That's debatable. But Rudy Gobert? No offense, but he [averaged] 15 [points] and 13 [rebounds] and I had my 23 and 12, and that's kind of a big difference. I think my numbers were better. But people didn't want to vote for me because our team didn't do well.”
Hollow numbers is what Embiid was. In the end Gobert carries his team which is why he’s all nba and you’re not, he’s simply better!!!!
 

//r00t 4 Jazz

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Man this thread.... can't say I was shocked but also can't say I still wasn't disappointed.

I just wanted to add my 2 cents and basically re-commenting on what some others already said, when you know this thread was about Rudy and his extension.

IMO Rudy got his "fair" market value, which is different than his subjective "true" value, which those two RARELY line up. I say subjective because, yes his skill set is limited by his lack of one on one offensive skills but is greatly boosted by his team value in how the Jazz and any smart team would use him to maximize his effectiveness and contributions to the team.

Embid's comments reflect that a bit. Yes Embid SHOULD be better than Rudy, he is more naturally gifted offensively and physically has very similar if not more natural abilities on the defensive end. Gobert more than makes up that difference with his mental make up and approach to the game, like Yogi Berra said (even if he said "baseball") the game is 90% mental 10% physical.

It's hard to quantify that mental side but to me those who posted the Twitter links, showing Gobert's +/- when he's on and off the court and then even more recently with Mitchel, to me says and illustrates better than I could put to words.

If physical talent is all it took then DeAndre Jordan, Andre Drummond and heck Javelle McGee all "Should" be better than Gobert and to casual or ignorant fans they are and Rudy is overpaid. Fine by me it will make JazzAvenues post game threads all the better to read as Rudy reaps their souls.
 

LogGrad98

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In online discussion, there's Goodwin's law. I think there needs to be a name for when a thread reaches 10+ pages, it's invariable 2-3 people arguing back and forth about something that doesn't pertain at all to the OP. Game threads become a good example of this, but this is a pretty strong trend.
Infection's Law.

So this thread has been infected.
 

framer

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Thought I’d put this here. Rudy would’ve fit in well in the 90’s. No one outside of France or the jazz seem to like Gobert. Lol. Embiid doesn’t think Gobert should’ve made all nba over him

Embiid’s own words.

“I agree that Anthony Davis had a better season than me. [Nikola] Jokic? That's debatable. But Rudy Gobert? No offense, but he [averaged] 15 [points] and 13 [rebounds] and I had my 23 and 12, and that's kind of a big difference. I think my numbers were better. But people didn't want to vote for me because our team didn't do well.”
Hollow numbers is what Embiid was. In the end Gobert carries his team which is why he’s all nba and you’re not, he’s simply better!!!!
Philadelphia is just so damn unlikable. No wonder Reddick ran away as fast as he could.
 

oneye

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You spent most of your response reinforcing my points. Thank you.
This is exactly what you say when you have no legitimate point lol. With this response you made my point. See how stupid it sounds lmao.
Asking someone why they think an act is disrespectful is not forcing them to to succumb, unless their opinions are so shallow they can not withstand the slightest bit of self-introspection.
That’s not what you’re saying, you’re flat out saying it’s “not disrespectful” Maybe in your eyes, but others eyes don’t have to see things the same as you and can see it as disrespectful. You don’t get to decide it.
So, you advise taking no actions. That's exactly what I expected of you, and exactly my point.
No that’s not my advise.
Sure, some slogans are worse than others. Now, when you come up with an actual act of protest Kapernick could have taken on-field for his protest that would not have been controversial, I will believe you are serious about this. Until then, you are lying about how you feel, and much more to yourself than to I.
Really simple, kneel before and after the anthem, I 100% promise you it would resonate better and still bring conversation.
 

One Brow

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See how stupid it sounds lmao.

I know, it's really stupid. Your choice to stop or not.

That’s not what you’re saying, you’re flat out saying it’s “not disrespectful” Maybe in your eyes, but others eyes don’t have to see things the same as you and can see it as disrespectful. You don’t get to decide it.

So, if I see your reply to me as being disrespectful, and you keep replying to me, you are defeating your own purpose by replying, and you should just just stop replying right now, so you can make your point.

That's your logic?

Really simple, kneel before and after the anthem, I 100% promise you it would resonate better and still bring conversation.
No one would care, so there would be no conversation.
 

//r00t 4 Jazz

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Also did you see during the pregame show that Ingles and Mitchell walked in together. That means he's team Mitchell and hates Gobert and prolly means he is going to NYC with Mitchell.

Also during the game Gobert was the first one over to help Mitchell up when he got knocked down. So clearly that means Gobert is team Mitchel and he hates... himself... and will also be going to NYC but to BKN and not the NYK. I won't even get into what it means when Mitchell helped Gobert up or after throwing him that pass that led to the and one, I mean cause it's clear and should go without saying...
 

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