Rudy Gobert against Mutombo, Wallace and Rodman (what do advanced stats say?)

[karl malone]

Management was still waffling on keeping Paul. That was a trade that was not going to be made. As for Big Al, there were only 3-4 teams that could have legitimately traded for him. As an UFA, he wouldn't have fetched a top draft pick. And KOC ABSOLUTELY did not want to take back a multi-year deal. Right or wrong, he thought the Jazz COULD be players in free agency, just as DL did this season. Didn't sign a player, but we did get the deal done with GS, which wouldn't have happened if we had a lousy vet with another year left on his deal all in return for a couple of 2nd round picks.

This is all true, which is why I said it was a possible misstep. Personally, I think we had already made up our minds to turn the reigns over to Favors & Kanter so I think it had already been decided that Millsap would be allowed to walk (otherwise we would have re-signed him considering the bargain of a contract he received). There's no point in questioning it tho as we have no way of knowing if the trade offers outweighed what we ultimately received in the GSW trade. My guess is that we wouldn't have done much better considering the promise that Hood has shown up to this point.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

This is all true, which is why I said it was a possible misstep. Personally, I think we had already made up our minds to turn the reigns over to Favors & Kanter so I think it had already been decided that Millsap would be allowed to walk (otherwise we would have re-signed him considering the bargain of a contract he received). There's no point in questioning it tho as we have no way of knowing if the trade offers outweighed what we ultimately received in the GSW trade. My guess is that we wouldn't have done much better considering the promise that Hood has shown up to this point.

If you need to be reminded who questioned this take a close look at post #9.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Management was still waffling on keeping Paul. That was a trade that was not going to be made. As for Big Al, there were only 3-4 teams that could have legitimately traded for him. As an UFA, he wouldn't have fetched a top draft pick. And KOC ABSOLUTELY did not want to take back a multi-year deal. Right or wrong, he thought the Jazz COULD be players in free agency, just as DL did this season. Didn't sign a player, but we did get the deal done with GS, which wouldn't have happened if we had a lousy vet with another year left on his deal all in return for a couple of 2nd round picks.

Yeah, pretty much this. Both were UFA and teams have no leverage for a sign-and-trade unless the player is a RFA. I mean they could have tried to trade for a player or two at the deadline, but like Stifle Tower said, we didn't need to get multi-year contract guys back because we needed the cap space for the younger guys.

 

[Kyoto]

As amazing as Gobert's dunk was, my favorite part of that video is the expression on Kanter's face at the end.

When I see that video all I see is how Gobert almost had his legs taken from under him. I get nervous every time I watch it lol

 

[karl malone]

If you need to be reminded who questioned this take a close look at post #9.

I guess we have differing opinions of what it means to question something. I don't question the decision, nor did I in my post (at least that wasn't my intention). I was simply attempting to point out that there is a potential argument to be made that allowing Jefferson & Millsap to walk for nothing could be considered a POSSIBLE misstep. I even defended it (from both DL & KOC's perspectives). Touche on catching my poor choice of words tho.

 

[bjwsan]

Just how good can Rudy be?

I'm going to say... 11

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOO5S4vxi0o

 

[addictionary]

He can be a good I think so.

Oh man... :\

 

[addictionary]

I think the Jazz got themselves a future HoF'er. A Dwight Howard (pronounced the White Tower) but the kind that strives to win. Not only the game, but every God dang position. If he cannot block your layup in that play, he will stalk you and block you to death to revenge it.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

I guess we have differing opinions of what it means to question something. I don't question the decision, nor did I in my post (at least that wasn't my intention). I was simply attempting to point out that there is a potential argument to be made that allowing Jefferson & Millsap to walk for nothing could be considered a POSSIBLE misstep. I even defended it (from both DL & KOC's perspectives). Touche on catching my poor choice of words tho.

So you're saying that you are not among those who question this decision? If so then yeah, your wording confused me.

 

[zman1527]

Rudy's offense is much better already than Rodman or Wallace, way better. He can pass and is going to get 3-4 dunks per night, one of which will be nasty. And he is going to add more.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

the only thing that can stop Rudy is injury.

 

[karl malone]

So you're saying that you are not among those who question this decision? If so then yeah, your wording confused me.

My fault, I should have been more clear. While Stifle was crediting the foundation that KOC built, he said the misstep was retaining Corbin for a year too long. I replied by saying that allowing Jefferson & Millsap to walk for nothing could have been a possible misstep. In a later post, I tried to clarify that since there is no way of knowing what offers were on the table, that there is no way of knowing if it was in fact a misstep. I also stated that since the cap space cleared by allowing them to walk allowed us to make the GSW trade, which in return netted us Hood, it likely means that it in fact wasn't a misstep at all. I can understand why my first post came off as if I was questioning the decision. I was just saying that there is an argument to be made regarding the handling of Jefferson & Millsap, but I wasn't trying to make the argument (at least not the handling of the trade-deadline prior to them becoming FA's). I do however think that not trading them the year before when it was clear that we weren't going to contend after having traded DWill was a major misstep.