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Rumor: Jazz prepared to match 'any offer' for Hayward.

baka98 said:
You're not overpaying if that is what the market dictates...
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Oof. Do people actually think this way? The Jazz should be concerned with cost v. benefit of Gordo on the Jazz, not on the Cavs or any other team.
 
Hayward is a nice player, I like him. But I don't think he has a much higher ceiling than where he already is. The only things I could see him improving are his shooting percentages. That would make him better for sure, but there is a limit to how hood he can get, right? He just isn't fast enough or explosive enough to elevate to an elite level. He doesn't really blow by anyone when driving to the hoop. And he doesn't finish very well either.

Tbh...Hayward 's offense is very good. It's ok I guess. It's his defense that makes him good. His defense is pretty stellar actually.

And that's what kind of makes this hard. It's hard to find good defenders and two way players. I think if you are the Jazz, you are hoping his offense can get better, and you are satisfied with his defense. He's gonna be a good pro too. You know he'll work hard and not get in trouble.

But if his offense doesn't get better then, then you got a really bad contract on your hands.

I think the Jazz do match.
 
Do you guys actually understand supply vs. demand? And BTW, there is a huge benefit of Hayward on the Jazz. He makes others better. Burks does not.
 
GVC said:
Oof. Do people actually think this way? The Jazz should be concerned with cost v. benefit of Gordo on the Jazz, not on the Cavs or any other team.
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I agree, but its cost benefit of Gordo vs. what else is out there.

My first preference... sign and trade for something good. My second preference... match the offer. If you let him walk you better have a damn good use for that money.
 
Lattimer said:
A guy that shot 41%FG, 31% 3-pt, had a 16 PER, is a below average defender (analysts have said this) and doesn't have one elite skill is going to get a max contract.


Vomit. The nba owners are tards. I hope they garner zero support in the lockout.


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But, but ... The Market. It's not just dumbasses making dumb decisions, it's the mystical god-like Market declaring Gordy's worth.
 
Close your eyes and picture Hayward DOMINATING in Cleveland as they go on deep playoff runs every year and sports writers talk about what an awesome contract the Cavs have him on and how letting him go was the downfall of the Utah Jazz.


Ummmm....yeah. LOL


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Handlogten's Heros said:
I agree, but its cost benefit of Gordo vs. what else is out there.

My first preference... sign and trade for something good. My second preference... match the offer. If you let him walk you better have a damn good use for that money.
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I think you're not thinking about the fact that the Jazz have to pay him every year of his contract, not just this year. This ties them down not just this summer, but the next summer, and the summer after that, and the summer after that.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I agree, but its cost benefit of Gordo vs. what else is out there.
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Right. If Gordo performs in Cleveland/Utah next season at a similar level as he did this past season, it may be hard to move him at $15-$16mm per year. If you can't move Gordo, this is the team the Jazz are locked into. Complete mediocrity. No thanks.

Letting him go for nothing is a risk, and it's hard to say what may come available over the next season+, but I'd rather strike out on trades/free agents taking a risk than settle for mediocrity.
 
I don't think matching a max deal for Gordon damages the jazz nearly as much as not matching a max offer damages the Jazz.

That's because the downside in matching is very low. It won't impact us signing our own free agents, the salary structure in the NBA is just changing upwards too rapidly for Gordon's contract to be a problem. It'll hamper us in signing other free agents, but, it's unlikely we'd be able to sign anyone better than Gordon anyway. So, not much loss there. The primary downside as I see it would be it could make it harder to do deals like we did with Golden State last year. But, in today's market there are a ton of teams with cap room, so the value of cap space to eat contracts is coming down a bit due to increased competition.

It's a pretty low downside. Most of it monetary (not going to hurt anyone but the Miller's pocketbook) and mental (fans won't like the concept).

But, realistically, it's a rather easy decision. You match because the downside is low and there is still decent upside. Even if Hayward never improves a bit, he and his contract will still be a very valuable trade chip 3 years down the road.

Jazz will match. Fans will gripe. And by summer league we will all have forgotten about Gordon's contract.
 
baka98 said:
Do you guys actually understand supply vs. demand? And BTW, there is a huge benefit of Hayward on the Jazz. He makes others better. Burks does not.
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Wait huh? Hayward makes others better?

Boy... I wonder how much worse big al, Millsap, favors, etc would have been without Gordon...
 
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