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Russell Westbrook 2.0 at 23? (Zach LaVine)

And the game were Anderson and Adams sat out, Bryce Alford heavily out-performed LaVine, but that was only because he is the coach's son, right?

the game where Lavine had 18 points 8 rebounds 5 assists and no turnovers in 48 minutes of play? obviously he was terrible that game.
 
I see Lavine and Exum in a similar light. Both have tantalizing potential, but just haven't done enough against good competition to warrant a high pick. Too risky. #15, sure, swing for the fences. #4 or #5. No thanks.

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I'm thinking that we're gonna be drafting some sort of SF/PF, whether it's Jabari or Vonleh. I guess there's the off-chance that Exum falls to 5, and Vonleh is taken 3rd or something.

Still. Either player would provide some bawse spacing, and really vault our offense forward IMO. Burke would excel in drafting either player IMO.
 
LaVine's OOC stats vs. LaVine's PAC-12 stats. LOL. Superstar potential vs. inferior competition.

If Zach LaVine fell off so hard in conference play, and Aaron Gordon is a good 3pt shooter, how did LaVine(37%) manage to shoot better than double the percentage of AG (17%) in Pac-12 play
 
I see Lavine and Exum in a similar light. Both have tantalizing potential, but just haven't done enough against good competition to warrant a high pick. Too risky. #15, sure, swing for the fences. #4 or #5. No thanks.

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That's why we're discussing trading 23, 35 and something else to get the #12 pick. I said Burke.
 
I'm thinking that we're gonna be drafting some sort of SF/PF, whether it's Jabari or Vonleh. I guess there's the off-chance that Exum falls to 5, and Vonleh is taken 3rd or something.

Still. Either player would provide some bawse spacing, and really vault our offense forward IMO. Burke would excel in drafting either player IMO.


Burke will excel if he can get faster. Both in the halfcourt, and in pushing the ball. The shot clock will still read 24. He really needs to start valuing every second, otherwise, we'll be seeing Hayward running the offense again.
 
Lol @ Cy grasping at straws, and basing everything on the college game. Just so he can remain stubborn.

Dude has superstar potential. No one said it's a guarantee. But what he has are some incredible gifts.
 
That's why we're discussing trading 23, 35 and something else to get the #12 pick. I said Burke.

I wouldn't trade Burke for LaVine strait up personally. I like LaVine, but I would hate having to potentially rely on him as a starter. For all his faults, Burke has shown that he can play AND he's a gamer. He will get better. I just hope that the new coach improves the system that he's playing in AND forces him to play within that system.

He showed a huge jump from his Freshman to Sophomore seasons. I'm expecting a similar jump for him this year.
 
I wouldn't trade Burke for LaVine strait up personally. I like LaVine, but I would hate having to potentially rely on him as a starter. For all his faults, Burke has shown that he can play AND he's a gamer. He will get better. I just hope that the new coach improves the system that he's playing in AND forces him to play within that system.

He showed a huge jump from his Freshman to Sophomore seasons. I'm expecting a similar jump for him this year.

We have Neto as well.

And even if Lavine is relied upon to play starter's minutes, it can't be worse than what we saw last year. Sure, Burke had some good games, but for the most part, Hayward was forced to run the offense, not because of Corbin, but because Burke was just too damn slow. Do you know how many shot clock violations, and low percentage late shot clock attempts we had? If Lavine has no PG skills, then a Hayward and Lavine backcourt would still be better because LaVine can actually shoot, play w/ pace, and attack the rim.

If Burke can't defend, play w/ pace, shoot, or attack the rack and draw fouls, he is wrong for our team. No matter how good of a college player he was. Undersized, underathletic, slow, and nearing 22 doesn't paint a picture of promising growth.

I thought everyone was on board with "no piece is untouchable in our quest for a star."

We don't need a superstar PG, but we do need a superstar, and at least some more positional mismatches. Lavine has that potential in spades, and can be had on the cheap. Yes, it's a gamble, but it is one i see as being well worth it.
 
Anyways, Trey doesn't necessarily have to be on the table. We have a lot of assets at our disposal that could potentially get us there. Boston @16 could be another option to consider, depending on how confident we felt about him being there.

I've been advocating the Jazz moving up to get Orlando's 2nd pick (12), so they could snag Lavine for ages now. I would trade any combination of these assetts (not all, but whatever combination made a deal):

#23
#35
Trey Burke
Rights to Tomic
Any of our future 2nd's
Any scrub we have control of (Clark, E. Murphy, M. Thomas, J. Evans)
Possibly a future 1st (not 2015 or 2017).
 
A lot of it will depend on who the next coach is and what kind of system he brings. I hope that it's up-tempo, but that might not be the case. Trey could be a perfect fit if he'll speed up to the new shot clock. I have a feeling that he will.

Regardless, if they pick another point guard and/or bring over Neto. . . I want Trey Burke on the team for competition and depth purposes. Let them battle it out and the best man wins. I like Burke's spirit and I can see him developing into a team leader. I don't want to throw that away unless they have to. I've seen enough of guys who can't cut it as a #2 PG. It's killed this team for years. If they have an opportunity to pick up an upgrade, they should. . . but I think that they need to keep their team as deep as they possibly can, for as long as they possibly can.
 
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