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Ryan Braun is he guilty or innocent

Wes Mantooth said:
Yeah, so he somehow got extra testosterone into the specimen that was sealed.
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I have no idea. I give zero ****s about baseball in general, just saw his explanation while waiting in the vets office for my dog. It seemed like he brought up a lot of good points.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Not at all. I think most cases these things are dealt with very carefully. The carrier just really messed up by not following protocol. It wasn't like it was some really small thing, the guy didn't deliver the package on time and kept it at his house.
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That's not my point.
 
Although I could care less about whether he is guilty or not, I find testosterone level argument very interesting. If it is true that it came back 3x's higher than any positive test in baseball history, doesn't that raise a huge red flag that something could have possibly been wrong with the test itself? Look at Braun, and then look at all of the guys that we know for a fact were on the juice. I'm supposed to believe that he had 3x's the amount in his body when compared to those apes?

Sorry, not buying it.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
I'm not bringing this up to hate on him. I haven't fully come to my own conclusion on it one way or another.

Here's what I do know he I guess failed a drug test and is suspended for 50 games Braun appeals and MLB's suspension is reversed because the test sample wasn't handled correctly. If I'm misinformed, someone fill me in. My question is did he test positive because his test sample was mishandled or did he use but get off because of the mishandling of the test sample in question?

Would like to discuss.
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He's terribly guilty. He's like someone caught red handed robbing a bank, but gets off because of a technicality of not having his rights read to him.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
I will take that as a compliment because baseball is more boring than watching Devin Harris run an offense.
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That's because you really have never got into it to begin with. Please don't try to convince me otherwise. Baseball is not boring, just misunderstood by most. They whine about the time it takes between pitches or the fact that there are so many games in a season etc. There is always something going on during a game that you are over looking.
 
trigg3r said:
That's because you really have never got into it to begin with. Please don't try to convince me otherwise. Baseball is not boring, just misunderstood by most. They whine about the time it takes between pitches or the fact that there are so many games in a season etc. There is always something going on during a game that you are over looking.
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I won't say I was ever super involved/into baseball, but I went to a ton of Houston Astro's game (probably upwards of 50+) as a kid with my Grandpa. I liked them then, but I just grew bored with them as I grew up. Nice memories, but baseball is just boring now.
 
As for Braun, I am not sure we will ever know for sure. We all will of course suspect from now on. I can say that as a fan of one of his rival teams, I respect the guy. The steroid issue withstanding, he has shown the utmost class whenever a baseball fan runs into him whether it is a Brewer fan or in this case a Cub fan. I have heard numerous stories of him not only going out of his way to talk to fans. Someone I know has run into him in Milwaukee on multiple occasions and he(Braun) each time remembered not only the guy's name, but he took a half hour out of his time to sign autographs and talk baseball with the guy's kids. Again, this is not a Brewer fan and Braun really had no obligation to spend any time doing any of this. Whether he is innocent or guilty, I have to say that at least he was classy in that regard.
 
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