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It remains a place with limited clubbing relative other NBA markets and outside of SLC, Utah is one of the whitest places in the United States with the ignorance to match.

Unless a person is coming to Utah to find excitement in the outdoors, the reason they come here is to chill.
You mean outside of the urban area and major city of the state that’s the case? Like basically every other state in the nation? This is red and blue on the map simpleton explanation.
 
There's difference between vacationing somewhere and living there.

And NBA players cant even do the stuff (contractually) that makes Utah cool.
 
I love that SLC is getting bigger and more diverse. I could never live in a city much smaller than say Boise. If I wasn't from SLC I'd probably feel a stronger pull to live in a larger city like Denver, Portland or Seattle. San Diego is nice but the weather is too boring. Definitely wouldn't want to live anywhere in the south where it's hot, muggy and never snows.

So many people talk about wanting to live a rural lifestyle yet for some reason the vast majority of people live in cities People have created dense cities for as long as people have been civilized. You'd think if living apart from large populations of other people was as important to people as they claim it is then we wouldn't have such a strong tendency to build and live in cities.

Sir, do you know what a job is?
 
Sir, do you know what a job is?
Sir, do you know what several thousand years of people making the world they want to live in is?

I'm not talking only about the economic realities of 2021. I'm talking about why people would have created a world they find so incredibly off-putting in the first place. The answer is that people actually like living in cities almost as much as they like bitching about it.
 
Sir, do you know what several thousand years of people making the world they want to live in is?

I'm not talking only about the economic realities of 2021. I'm talking about why people would have created a world they find so incredibly off-putting in the first place. The answer is that people actually like living in cities almost as much as they like bitching about it.
I’m with you. Instead of the constant bitching by people make the communities you live/work a better place that you want them to be. Complaining is easy, being the change you want to see is hard.
 
I’m with you. Instead of the constant bitching by people make the communities you live/work a better place that you want them to be. Complaining is easy, being the change you want to see is hard.
I'm not worried about the complaining and I'm not worried about making communities better. That was not my point at all.
 
Sir, do you know what several thousand years of people making the world they want to live in is?

I'm not talking only about the economic realities of 2021. I'm talking about why people would have created a world they find so incredibly off-putting in the first place. The answer is that people actually like living in cities almost as much as they like bitching about it.
The answer is jobs
 
The answer is jobs
Oh man, I had no idea that's what you were getting at.

Here's a question: If people had an inherent dislike of living together in large dense population centers would we have constructed our society differently so that the jobs existed in smaller pockets outside large dense population centers?

The answer is that we created the jobs in the places we wanted to be. People like large dense population centers. Since we like living in large dense population centers we have developed our economy to revolve around large dense population centers.
 
Oh man, I had no idea that's what you were getting at.

Here's a question: If people had an inherent dislike of living together in large dense population centers would we have constructed our society differently so that the jobs existed in smaller pockets outside large dense population centers?

The answer is that we created the jobs in the places we wanted to be. People like large dense population centers. Since we like living in large dense population centers we have developed our economy to revolve around large dense population centers.
No.
 
Born, raised, and lived here all my life. Don’t know why people are insecure about this. The people who like Utah like it because it’s boring (quiet) or outdoor activities (many of which NBA players are banned from doing).

Besides that, there’s no denying the cultural aspect to things. Yeah, some players may be pleasantly surprised and it’s not as bad as some think...but you guys come off as cult leaders trying to lure people in lol.
 
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