Science vs. Creationism

[carolinajazz]

98% of every species that ever existed has gone extinct, there have been five mass extinctions that we know of in the earths lifetime. All that is conveniently left out of the Bible, did God not care about those species he created? Just doing a couple test runs?

While the radioactive dating method is innovative, it is still based on speculation and assumption. In contrast, the Bible account in the first chapter of Genesis simply states the general order of creation. It allows for possibly thousands of millions of years for the formation of the earth and many millenniums of time or longer in six creative eras, or “days,” to prepare the earth for human habitation.

Some dinosaurs (and pterosaurs) may indeed have been created in the fifth era listed in Genesis, when the Bible says that God made “flying creatures” and “great sea monsters.” Perhaps other types of dinosaurs were created in the sixth epoch. The vast array of dinosaurs with their huge appetites would have been appropriate considering the abundant vegetation that evidently existed in their time.—Genesis 1:20-24.

When the dinosaurs had fulfilled their purpose, God ended their life. But the Bible is silent on how he did that or when. We can be sure that dinosaurs were created by God for a purpose, even if we do not fully understand that purpose at this time. They were no mistake, no product of evolution.

That they suddenly appear in the fossil record unconnected to any fossil ancestors, and also disappear without leaving connecting fossil links, is evidence against the view that such animals gradually evolved over millions of years of time. Thus, the fossil record does not support the evolution theory. Instead, it harmonizes with the Bible’s view of creative acts of God.

 

[MVP]

That they suddenly appear in the fossil record unconnected to any fossil ancestors, and also disappear without leaving connecting fossil links, is evidence against the view that such animals gradually evolved over millions of years of time. Thus, the fossil record does not support the evolution theory. Instead, it harmonizes with the Bible’s view of creative acts of God.

Where are you getting this nonsense from? And reliable link please? All I know about evolution and dinosaurs says exact opposite.

 

[Zulu]

And it leads to simple question. Why we would take myths written by uneducated shepherds thousands of years ago seriously?

Dude Moses was a prince of Egypt!!!

 

[LogGrad98]

When I read the Bible, and find say the story of a seriously-afflicted woman in a pressing crowd reaching out in faith to touch the robes of Jesus, and being healed in an instant, I am not reading about something that is a myth to me, but something I can relate to from my own experience. Jesus turned and asked who touched Him, and his friends wondered why he would ask a question like that in a pressing crowd, but he knew something had gone out from Him. Just as I know on one and more occasion, something came to me from Him.

So who am I? What reason would God have to care about me? I found it just unanswerably amazing to know God does care, and would do such a thing for me. For what reason? Why not everybody? I don't know. All I know is that He did it for me. And all I can do is admit that central fact of my life to anyone who would want to know.

I was both totally blind and totally paralyzed on that day, no less afflicted than any story of any healing that Jesus did during His mortal time on earth as found told in the Bible. . . .

I don't think I'm fundamentally different in any way from anyone who doesn't know as I know, except maybe that God would like some people to know what He has done for all of us. . . .something far more enduring and necessary than my eyesight and walking in the broader scheme of our existence.

If we will turn and look for Him, he will come to us and show us what we need to know. . . . principally that we are loved. Loved with a love that goes so far beyond our life in this world that it can make everything we suffer here pass away like a moment of discomfort forgotten as a trifle. . . . for the transcending power of that love. And if we should never have experienced a day of not knowing that, and needing to seek it, we would never be able to value it. . . .

So somehow, our little journey in the dark in this life is meant to give us the time and space to learn, and we will come through it with a kind of knowledge that transcends scientific facts. . . . . and means much more than we can imagine. . . .

We are all blind, but we will all see someday. . . .

But we are also given something more important than that. . . . the chance to choose what we will love. . . . . and be.

I love the sentiment, and really appreciate this post babe.

But sometimes it feels like every silver lining has a cloud.

 

[Zulu]

While the radioactive dating method is innovative, it is still based on speculation and assumption. In contrast, the Bible account in the first chapter of Genesis simply states the general order of creation. It allows for possibly thousands of millions of years for the formation of the earth and many millenniums of time or longer in six creative eras, or “days,” to prepare the earth for human habitation.

Some dinosaurs (and pterosaurs) may indeed have been created in the fifth era listed in Genesis, when the Bible says that God made “flying creatures” and “great sea monsters.” Perhaps other types of dinosaurs were created in the sixth epoch. The vast array of dinosaurs with their huge appetites would have been appropriate considering the abundant vegetation that evidently existed in their time.—Genesis 1:20-24.

When the dinosaurs had fulfilled their purpose, God ended their life. But the Bible is silent on how he did that or when. We can be sure that dinosaurs were created by God for a purpose, even if we do not fully understand that purpose at this time. They were no mistake, no product of evolution.

That they suddenly appear in the fossil record unconnected to any fossil ancestors, and also disappear without leaving connecting fossil links, is evidence against the view that such animals gradually evolved over millions of years of time. Thus, the fossil record does not support the evolution theory. Instead, it harmonizes with the Bible’s view of creative acts of God.

Do you know the chances of a dead organism turning into a fossil.... It is very rare... Hence we we don't have the gradual evolution of many extinct and extant organisms.... But amazingly we do have record of this gradual change over time in some species via the fossil record... Best example... Trilobites!!!

 

[carolinajazz]

Bible as well says Earth was created first and then God made stars. Which is not true again as we know for sure that there are billions of stars older then Earth.

...the Bible does NOT say the earth was create first then stars! Where did you get that idea from??? The fact that rays from remote stars and galaxies millions of light-years distant now reach giant telescopes on earth indicates that the creation of these astral bodies occurred millions of years in the past, since otherwise these rays would not yet have reached our planet. Such creation is evidently included in the initial statement at Genesis 1:1: “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.”

Verse 16 does not contradict this in saying that during the fourth creative “day,” or period, “God proceeded to make .*.*. the stars.” The word “make” (Heb., ‛a·sah′) does not mean the same as the word “create” (Heb., ba·ra’′).

The Scriptures, in stating, “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth” (Ge 1:1), leave matters indefinite as to time. This use of the term “beginning” is therefore unassailable, regardless of the age scientists may seek to attach to the earthly globe and to the various planets and other heavenly bodies. The actual time of creation of the material heavens and earth may have been billions of years ago.

 

[carolinajazz]

After creating in the heavens things both invisible and visible, the Creator and his firstborn Son focused on the earth. Where did it come from? The variety of chemical elements making up our planet could have been produced directly by God’s transforming unlimited dynamic energy into matter, which physicists today say is feasible. Or, as many scientists believe, the earth could have been formed out of matter ejected from the explosion of a supernova. Then again, who is to say whether there might have been a combination of methods, those just mentioned and others that scientists have not yet unraveled? Whatever the mechanism, the Creator is the dynamic Source of the elements that make up our earth, including all the minerals that are essential for keeping us alive.

We can appreciate that founding the earth would have involved much more than supplying all the materials in the correct proportions. Earth’s size, its rotation, and its distance from the sun, as well as the inclination of its axis and the nearly circular shape of its orbit around the sun, also had to be just*right—exactly as they are. Clearly, the Creator set in operation natural cycles that make our planet fit to support an abundance of life. We have every right to be amazed at it all!

 

[Bawse Dawg]

Your knowledge of science is dwarfed only by your knowledge of basketball.

 

[Gameface]

After creating in the heavens things both invisible and visible, the Creator and his firstborn Son focused on the earth. Where did it come from? The variety of chemical elements making up our planet could have been produced directly by God’s transforming unlimited dynamic energy into matter, which physicists today say is feasible. Or, as many scientists believe, the earth could have been formed out of matter ejected from the explosion of a supernova. Then again, who is to say whether there might have been a combination of methods, those just mentioned and others that scientists have not yet unraveled? Whatever the mechanism, the Creator is the dynamic Source of the elements that make up our earth, including all the minerals that are essential for keeping us alive.

We can appreciate that founding the earth would have involved much more than supplying all the materials in the correct proportions. Earth’s size, its rotation, and its distance from the sun, as well as the inclination of its axis and the nearly circular shape of its orbit around the sun, also had to be just*right—exactly as they are. Clearly, the Creator set in operation natural cycles that make our planet fit to support an abundance of life. We have every right to be amazed at it all!

I feel like he could have done better, tbpfhwy.

 

[PearlWatson]

Do you know the chances of a dead organism turning into a fossil.... It is very rare... Hence we we don't have the gradual evolution of many extinct and extant organisms....

"Our evidence didn't fossilize. Just take our word for it."

That's my kind of "science."

 

[babe]

"Our evidence didn't fossilize. Just take our word for it."

That's my kind of "science."

Hey guys. . . don't choke on that humble pie.

well, at least Zulu needs to provide some rational hypothesis about why transitional evolutionary mutants don't fossilize as well as the putatively superior lifeforms that form immense masses of fossils. . . . .

I don't doubt that all life is inter-related, and we probably don't understand even now very much about the evolutionary process, or creation process. I think it's clear that any absolute de novo "creation" of any life form is evidently undergoing evolutionary change as we observe it's development. I suspect that it will eventually become as clear that any absolute "evolutionary product" is going to be meddled with in our own laboratories to an extent that we will eventually have to call the result some kind of laboratory "creation".

I simply posit these trends as the normal across the eons of existence while life has acted on it's context, and actual natural laws have acted upon life. . . .

 

[TroutBum]

Do you know the chances of a dead organism turning into a fossil.... It is very rare... Hence we we don't have the gradual evolution of many extinct and extant organisms.... But amazingly we do have record of this gradual change over time in some species via the fossil record... Best example... Trilobites!!!

I love digging trilobites out in Delta. Sounds corny, but to be able to hold something in your hand that is 500,000,000 years old is really something.