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Sorry, but we miss Kanter. Also, I know that hardly any one is picking up on this. Hayward is in the game during most of these droughts. Plus, again tonight our rookie Hood out played our max money Hayward.
 
Hayward has been a stud this year, and the Jazz have been kicking ***, but as soon as we get beat by the best team in the league, Hayward sucks and boo hoo about Kanter. You and James should just STFU already. Utah is a fantastic position and is only going to get better.
 
I think if this team had a Kanter version of a sg or something it would do the team good, but with rudy and favors no room for him on the floor.
 
Hayward has been a stud this year, and the Jazz have been kicking ***, but as soon as we get beat by the best team in the league, Hayward sucks and boo hoo about Kanter. You and James should just STFU already. Utah is a fantastic position and is only going to get better.

Why so defensive man? Is it so hard to see who has a better ceiling? Who has a better shot? And Hood has been more aggressive as of late when it comes to attacking the basket. I'm just stating facts, as MA said no need to get all defensive here for just having a different opinion.
 
Utah's offensive efficiency before the Kanter trade: 102.4
Utah's offensive efficiency after the Kanter trade: 102.4

Yeah clearly we miss Kanter.
 
Why so defensive man? Is it so hard to see who has a better ceiling? Who has a better shot? And Hood has been more aggressive as of late when it comes to attacking the basket. I'm just stating facts, as MA said no need to get all defensive here for just having a different opinion.

I'm fine with differing opinions, as long as it doesn't become broken record bitching about stupid ****. Your Hayward gripes are beyond stupid, let alone to repeat them over and over. Do yourself a favor and try to understand things like the cap and the CBA. If you understood anything about the cap and the jump that's about to happen, you'd understand that not matching Hayward would've been a HUGE mistake. I say that as someone who was against matching.
 
I'm fine with differing opinions, as long as it doesn't become broken record bitching about stupid ****. Your Hayward gripes are beyond stupid, let alone to repeat them over and over. Do yourself a favor and try to understand things like the cap and the CBA. If you understood anything about the cap and the jump that's about to happen, you'd understand that not matching Hayward would've been a HUGE mistake. I say that as someone who was against matching.

tldr "I am fine with differing opinions as long as I don't find your opinion stupid aka too different than mine"
 
Yes, on offense we miss Kanter. In terms of wins we don't miss him at all. I mean AT ALL!!

Wins trumps personal stats.

Next thread.
 
Saying I am okay with differing opinions as long as they are not stupid really isn't useful conversation.

You know what else isn't useful conversation? Having opinions that are completely unfounded, and then repeatedly bringing them up over and over at every opportunity. Like the OP does with Hayward. And like you do with defensive rating statistics for individual players in order to try to prove that Kanter is anything besides completely abysmal on that end.

It reminds me of another forum where somebody kept trying to argue that shooting 40% from 2 is better than shooting 33% from 3. If an opinion is factually incorrect, it deserves to be disregarded.
 
I don't miss Kanter on offense at all, yes it's nice to have another guy we can throw the ball to who can create some offense for himself, but I'll take the better overall movement of the offense that we currently see. Besides Hayward and Favors all these guys are still learning how to play with each other.
 
We might have droughts but some of that will be resolved when burks comes back- Hood is playing great lately and Hayward has been huge this year.
As a team we don't miss Kanter, his scoring load has been picked up by others including Gobert, Favors and Hood.
 
Just think about this, I would say our offense has been pretty rough since the Kanter trade and we've still gone what 13-4 (can't remember the exact record). Just think if we can improve to a medium tier offense with our defense. We'll win 50 games easily next year.
 
You know what else isn't useful conversation? Having opinions that are completely unfounded, and then repeatedly bringing them up over and over at every opportunity. Like the OP does with Hayward. And like you do with defensive rating statistics for individual players in order to try to prove that Kanter is anything besides completely abysmal on that end.

It reminds me of another forum where somebody kept trying to argue that shooting 40% from 2 is better than shooting 33% from 3. If an opinion is factually incorrect, it deserves to be disregarded.

I bring defensive rating over and over? The only time recently I brought it up was when Zach Lowe was using dRTG against Kanter. You need to read more carefully before you type or you going to continue being wrong. You also neg rep anyone who disagrees with you even slightly while insulting them.
 
The only time recently I brought it up was when Zach Lowe was using dRTG against Kanter. You need to read more carefully before you type or you going to continue being wrong.

You did it constantly up to the point where all the Kanter talk was moved to the General Sports board (thank God). After that I stopped paying attention until yesterday, when I saw you doing it yet again. I was nice to you the first several times and explained why it was a very noisy and useless stat, and yet you continued to use it and draw conclusions from it. That's why you got neg repped.

You also neg rep anyone who disagrees with you even slightly while insulting them.

I don't neg rep people for disagreeing with me. I neg rep people for having factually incorrect or unfounded arguments.
 
Pot, meet kettle.



I neg rep people who bring factually incorrect information into a debate. I have little tolerance for it.

Of course any disagreement with your superior intellect is wrong. Instead of cherishing different opinions to have some sort of debate, you would rather promote circle jerking your same opinion so you feel more confident about it.
 
Of course any disagreement with your superior intellect is wrong. Instead of cherishing different opinions to have some sort of debate, you would rather promote circle jerking your same opinion so you feel more confident about it.

I find it humorous that when someone like Rudy, Kanter, Burks, and Burke's have poor games this board is all over them. Yet, Hayward and for the most part Favors are untouchable. You are considered trolling the board if you aren't infatuated with them. Then one day they will realize that Hayward is not as good as they continually project him to be they will be the first ones off the boat. Happened with Boozer. It happened with Dwill. It will happen with Hayward.
 
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