Shaq Harrison


Eenie-Meenie

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Not sure if this should go in General NBA and mods can move it if they think so.

But I've watched Denver play and caught some minutes of Shaq Harrison, and he looks like a different player than when he was playing for the Jazz. Like way better.
 


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Not sure if this should go in General NBA and mods can move it if they think so.

But I've watched Denver play and caught some minutes of Shaq Harrison, and he looks like a different player than when he was playing for the Jazz. Like way better.
Don’t do this to me please.
 

SoUjazzfan

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Not sure if this should go in General NBA and mods can move it if they think so.

But I've watched Denver play and caught some minutes of Shaq Harrison, and he looks like a different player than when he was playing for the Jazz. Like way better.
Good for him, cause he was never going to do a thing here.
 

Saint Cy of JFC

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Right or wrong he never got a chance.
You dont get a chance when you look like a chicken with his head cut off in garbage time.

It sucks, but he missed most of training camp by being signed late then being injured and he was being outplayed by a 2-way contract player.

Denver makes more sense for him as they spacing bigs so they can stack the team with more slashing perimeter players who dont have to be good 3pt shooters.
 

infection

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You dont get a chance when you look like a chicken with his head cut off in garbage time.

It sucks, but he missed most of training camp by being signed late then being injured and he was being outplayed by a 2-way contract player.

Denver makes more sense for him as they spacing bigs so they can stack the team with more slashing perimeter players who dont have to be good 3pt shooters.
He was running the point. I would never have him run the point. If we’re looking for someone who would shine in garbage time, then I agree. If we were looking for someone to play defense while surrounded by better offensive players, he never played in those situations. Yes, you could say he didn’t earn that from garbage time, but those are apple and orange scenarios. I don’t want the ball in his hands.
 

Eenie-Meenie

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He was running the point. I would never have him run the point. If we’re looking for someone who would shine in garbage time, then I agree. If we were looking for someone to play defense while surrounded by better offensive players, he never played in those situations. Yes, you could say he didn’t earn that from garbage time, but those are apple and orange scenarios. I don’t want the ball in his hands.
Very true. He was awful running the point. But watching him play for Denver, you can see he has some talent.
 

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He was running the point. I would never have him run the point. If we’re looking for someone who would shine in garbage time, then I agree. If we were looking for someone to play defense while surrounded by better offensive players, he never played in those situations. Yes, you could say he didn’t earn that from garbage time, but those are apple and orange scenarios. I don’t want the ball in his hands.
Garbage time is beyond worthless and should never be used as an evaluation sample. There is literally a site that filters out garbage time to get a better sample of what a player is. If that is what we are making judgements on then I guess Matt Thomas better pack his damn suitcase because he’s been beyond terrible.
 

Saint Cy of JFC

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He was running the point. I would never have him run the point. If we’re looking for someone who would shine in garbage time, then I agree. If we were looking for someone to play defense while surrounded by better offensive players, he never played in those situations. Yes, you could say he didn’t earn that from garbage time, but those are apple and orange scenarios. I don’t want the ball in his hands.
So he's going to be stuck in the corner then. Utah's offense relies on ball-handlers who can shoot/make plays or off-ball players who can shoot. You can't put a guy like Shaq in any situation with Utah and except him to succeed. Hell I doubt he will even succeed in a situation that's perfect for him in Denver.
 

Saint Cy of JFC

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Garbage time is beyond worthless and should never be used as an evaluation sample. There is literally a site that filters out garbage time to get a better sample of what a player is. If that is what we are making judgements on then I guess Matt Thomas better pack his damn suitcase because he’s been beyond terrible.
Yeah, I would assume Thomas will be packing his bags eventually. He's going to get chances though because I'm sure he shoots lights out in practice, but eventually it has to translate to the moments you get on the court.

Garbage time is not beyond worthless. It's worthless to look at Gobert stats in garbage time, sure. It's worthless to look at Niang's stats in garbage time (this season), but for guys who are at the end of the bench it's a great indicator of what kind of players they are (not necessarily stats, but just how they look/feel on the court). I remember Rayjon Tucker getting into the game and just chucking up the first bad look he got. There's guy who just look like they don't belong when they are on a NBA court and Shaq was one of those dudes. Sure, if you put him in a perfect situation and ask him to do very little he can succeed at not being a complete negative, but the moment you ask him to do anything on offense it falls apart, and when you run Utah's offense you can't have those kinds of players on the court.
 
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