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Should Cody spend time in the G LEAGUE

Should Cody Williams get sent down to the Stars for a stint?

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Saint Cy of JFC said:
Driving to the rim on straight line drives was supposed to be his strength
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That's why you don't evaluate guys based on what they can do against terrible NCAA defenses.

There's only one relevant question: can he do this against tactically superior NBA team defenses and much faster, bigger and smarter defenders?

In Cody's case, he never looked like his scoring and driving would translate. Not for one second.
 
Let's be honest: I do not remember any other first-round pick for the Jazz who looked so bad and unprepared in his first games as Cody. Not since 2000. Am I missing anyone worse than Cody?
 
jazznik said:
Let's be honest: I do not remember any other first-round pick for the Jazz who looked so bad and unprepared in his first games as Cody. Not since 2000. Am I missing anyone worse than Cody?
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As bad, probably not. He's been uniquely awful looking. Hendricks was very bad looking just last year. Hayward was really bad for most of his rookie season.

I'm not 100% sure how the degrees of badness matter though. We have had plenty of really bad looking rookies who ended up fine. More importantly in the history of basketball there have been thousands of players who weren't ready to play NBA basketball at 19, but ended up just fine.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
As bad, probably not. He's been uniquely awful looking. Hendricks was very bad looking just last year. Hayward was really bad for most of his rookie season.

I'm not 100% sure how the degrees of badness matter though. We have had plenty of really bad looking rookies who ended up fine. More importantly in the history of basketball there have been thousands of players who weren't ready to play NBA basketball at 19, but ended up just fine.
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I bet some of the Jazz player personnel folks are popping Maalox at the moment though.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
As bad, probably not. He's been uniquely awful looking. Hendricks was very bad looking just last year. Hayward was really bad for most of his rookie season.

I'm not 100% sure how the degrees of badness matter though. We have had plenty of really bad looking rookies who ended up fine. More importantly in the history of basketball there have been thousands of players who weren't ready to play NBA basketball at 19, but ended up just fine.
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Well, it was a long time ago and my memory is a bit hazy but IIRC Hayward showed some clear potential and production quite early. In his first three games he averaged 6 PPG and 4 RPG in only 20 minutes. He was often confused and hesitant but he did produced when he had an opening. It simply that afterwards the Jazz went on the insanely hot streak (16-3) and he was pushed to the garbage 2-4 minutes per game in favor of the vets.

And Hendricks last year simply did not get any burn until December, but in December he was clearly demonstrating his shooting touch and the defensive capabilities. Unless Cody suddenly greatly improves in the next week I see no comparison there.

I really have to reach back in my memory to find someone equally struggling on the Jazz. I think CJ Miles was pretty bad and comparable... but he was actually 18 for almost his entire rookie season and fresh out of high school. Williams is already 20 and had a year of college, so yeah...
 
jazznik said:
Let's be honest: I do not remember any other first-round pick for the Jazz who looked so bad and unprepared in his first games as Cody. Not since 2000. Am I missing anyone worse than Cody?
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Hendricks was shooting 20% in the Gleague this time last year. These guys need a minute.

Also, Cody looks good on the defensive side. He moves really well, makes most of his rotations and often takes tough on-ball assignments. He stifled Jalen Brunson on multiple possessions a couple days ago. He just doesn't know how to score from the spots where he's getting the ball. If the Jazz had better playmakers, Cody could probably score on some slashes to the rim, but he hasn't been getting any.
 
The language around Cody is eerily similar to that around Exum's season, which is no surprise to me. It's either 1) he completely sucks and can't do anything or 2) he could do stuff, he just doesn't get the chance! I guess we'll hang our hat on his on ball defense. I think it's been fine, but nothing exceptional and combine with his complete lack of motor I don't think he amounts to an above average defense player yet.
 
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