Should the South secede?

[Siro]

https://www.salon.com/2012/08/12/should_the_south_secede/

This is clearly very hypothetical. Let's say the north and south, or coast and heartland, or however you see the ideological divide, were to form separate countries. Do you think both sides would benefit from choosing a path that better fits their worldview? Or do you think that'd be a terrible idea for everyone involved? Or something in between?

Oh, and this is just a general question that does not directly relate to the article. I was reading it and I simply wanted to see the different opinions on the subject.

 

[Scat]

Succeed at what?

 

[northeast]

I'm tired of blue states carrying the red states.
I say split em up.
The red states can go join Mexico, and the Blue states can join Canada.
I think this would be a great idea, assuming Mexico and Canada will have us.

 

[Dr. Jones]

The South should secede from the union.

- no more unsweet iced tea
- no more skinny jeans
- no more grammar polise
- etsettera

 

[Dr. Jones]

I'm tired of blue states carrying the red states.
I say split em up.
The red states can go join Mexico, and the Blue states can join Canada.
I think this would be a great idea, assuming Mexico and Canada will have us.

Whatever the sides, I don't want to be on that ^^^^ one.

 

[Hotdog]

Whatever the sides, I don't want to be on that ^^^^ one.

They should also make a strip down the middle, running east and west, 100 miles wide, coast to coast. It shall be called Normalville. That way I don't have to move.

 

[Dr. Jones]

They should also make a strip down the middle, running east and west, 100 miles wide, coast to coast. It shall be called Normalville. That way I don't have to move.

Why would you have to move? In the hypothetical, no one was moving to Canada or Mexico.

 

[Hotdog]

Why would you have to move? In the hypothetical, no one was moving to Canada or Mexico.

Well in my hypothetical, only normal people could live in NormalVille. All others would have to move to their new countries.

 

[northeast]

not sure settling in the DMZ is the best choice, but BOL

 

[Scat]

I'm tired of blue states carrying the red states.
I say split em up.
The red states can go join Mexico, and the Blue states can join Canada.
I think this would be a great idea, assuming Mexico and Canada will have us.

If civilization were to simply fail about the only blue state that could survive is CA. They can at least grow their own food. You simps in the northeast would all starve to death. And when you came to take ours we'd just shoot you. We have all the guns too.

 

[Scat]

Oh, and unsweetened ice tea is the only way to drink the stuff.

 

[Hotdog]

Oh, and unsweetened ice tea is the only way to drink the stuff.

Whaaaa?

I love iced tea, but it's got to be sweetened. That's like drinking sparkling water.

 

[JimLes]

I'm tired of blue states carrying the red states.
I say split em up.
The red states can go join Mexico, and the Blue states can join Canada.
I think this would be a great idea, assuming Mexico and Canada will have us.

You'd have to learn French first, though. And how to put Us in words like colour, honour, and the like.

 

[NAOS]

Oh, and unsweetened ice tea is the only way to drink the stuff.

we have found something in common. I'll rep you now.

 

[Siro]

If civilization were to simply fail about the only blue state that could survive is CA. They can at least grow their own food. You simps in the northeast would all starve to death. And when you came to take ours we'd just shoot you. We have all the guns too.

Of course you mean if civilization fails while the red states got to keep all their technology and science that allows them to continue modern agriculture, in addition to all the trade needed to satisfy basic infrastructural needs like phosphates and oil.

Gotcha.

 

[Dr. Jones]

All I know is I'd survive just fine. North, South, or middle. I may even take a couple of you yankees catfishin' or somethin'.

 

[franklin]

Of course you mean if civilization fails while the red states got to keep all their technology and science that allows them to continue modern agriculture, in addition to all the trade needed to satisfy basic infrastructural needs like phosphates and oil.

Gotcha.

You suckin a lot of Canadoh! off in that one, eh? Utah would be supplying the oil need on all fronts if it weren't for the leftist protection. We got the salty too. Intrepid down in Moab, GSL, and New Messican. Oil is booming in North Dakota. We'll ship enough rough necks up to make that place stay red. Texas, Lou... plenty oil there son.

And if we don't have enough of anything then we'll pull out of Iracks and invade Baha all the way through to the canal, which we (which I"m positive the worst president in the galaxy built and gave away FDR you hooker)

 

[Dr. Jones]

You suckin a lot of Canadoh! off in that one, eh? Utah would be supplying the oil need on all fronts if it weren't for the leftist protection. We got the salty too. Intrepid down in Moab, GSL, and New Messican. Oil is booming in North Dakota. We'll ship enough rough necks up to make that place stay red. Texas, Lou... plenty oil there son.

And if we don't have enough of anything then we'll pull out of Iracks and invade Baha all the way through to the canal, which we (which I"m positive the worst president in the galaxy built and gave away FDR you hooker)

This guy gets it.

 

[Siro]

You suckin a lot of Canadoh! off in that one, eh? Utah would be supplying the oil need on all fronts if it weren't for the leftist protection. We got the salty too. Intrepid down in Moab, GSL, and New Messican. Oil is booming in North Dakota. We'll ship enough rough necks up to make that place stay red. Texas, Lou... plenty oil there son.

And if we don't have enough of anything then we'll pull out of Iracks and invade Baha all the way through to the canal, which we (which I"m positive the worst president in the galaxy built and gave away FDR you hooker)

In Scat's scenario civilization falls and red states continue to thrive because they produce food. I was pointing out that they produce so much food because of the fact that civilization hasn't yet fallen. Obviously if you control such large swaths of land, you'll have a chance to rebuild. But so will others. The fact that red states produce food has to do with the economic realities of a complex and interdependent world. If we're going to pretend that the current situation has to do with liberals being pansies who don't want to get their hands dirty, we might as well claim that most of high tech and the science behind it come from blue states because conservatives are ignorant Bible-thumping rednecks.

 

[Stoked]

If any split were to happen it would be the west coast, hawaii, great lakes and new england area and the rest of the US. There would be alot of migration int he first decade.