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Should we go full rebuild?

Should we go full rebuild?


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First thought is hell no, but if this is what a partial rebuild looks like under Ainge, eh, it wouldn't bother me too much if they at least went all in in one direction.
 
How exactly is it perfect? I just don't see a way that we are able to catch up with the rockets and thunder.
No team in the NBA can execute a 5 year plan to win a championship from a rebuild with perfection. None. There are too many moving parts. The original plan will never be the eventual plan.

Luck is needed for any team to rebuild into a contender. I'm just talking about being a contender.

This is just the reality, man. Small markets are at a distinct disadvantage in the NBA, so even more luck, more good fortune is needed on top of sound leadership.

Any small market team that starts flailing and scrambling because they need to "swing for the fences" at every single pitch that is thrown is doomed.

The Jazz are better than that. Might be disappointing for instant gratification types, but it is true.

This could take a while. This could take a long while.
 
You mean with all of Utah's assets there's no possible way they can be better than the Houston Rockets?

Jesus ****ing Christ. Such patheticness. We should hit the reset button because of the Thunder?

There's always going to great teams.
Our best assets will be our own picks rather than the wolves and cavs. The rockets already have better talent and the future nets picks and swaps have way more value than the wolves and cavs picks right now. It will be very difficult to pass the rockets in the future. They are already significantly better than us this year and have been riddled by injuries all year.
 
No team in the NBA can execute a 5 year plan to win a championship from a rebuild with perfection. None. There are too many moving parts. The original plan will never be the eventual plan.

Luck is needed for any team to rebuild into a contender. I'm just talking about being a contender.

This is just the reality, man. Small markets are at a distinct disadvantage in the NBA, so even more luck, more good fortune is needed on top of sound leadership.

Any small market team that starts flailing and scrambling because they need to "swing for the fences" at every single pitch that is thrown is doomed.

The Jazz are better than that. Might be disappointing for instant gratification types, but it is true.

This could take a while. This could take a long while.
So you are agreeing with me? Luck is definitely involved so getting as many high end bites at the apple is a big deal.
 
The plan so far is perfect. Just avoid the John Collins trade type of mistake and the Jazz will build a contender in time.
I got killed by a lot of different posters for hating on this trade. I was called hater and all manner of idiocy.

And now because of this stupid trade we should trade Lauri and pray we don’t pull another Favors like trade to fix our mistakes
 
Our best assets will be our own picks rather than the wolves and cavs. The rockets already have better talent and the future nets picks and swaps have way more value than the wolves and cavs picks right now. It will be very difficult to pass the rockets in the future. They are already significantly better than us this year and have been riddled by injuries all year.
What? When the FO mailed it in we were worried if we can catch the Rockets in a race towards the bottom. Now all of a sudden they are significantly better?

Are you worried about the 42/33/80 Jalen Green or the 53/15/60 Amen Thompson turning into superstars? Or maybe its Cam Whitmore, who is close to worst in their internal BPM rankings and is probably the worst black hole we have seen a rookie been in a long time. Who are the guys Rockets have that are causing you to hyperventilate?

Sengun is great btw, but not like he is #1 in a contender level guy. Jalen Green has been hot as of late, but unless he seriously leveled up midseason its a hot stretch and despite improving him numbers lately his total body of work for the year is still very meh.
 
Thunder are a problem for sure but as Cy pointed out you dont go crying in the corner just because there's competition. In fact, the term "contender" has a built in expectation of having others to contend with.

We need to worry about building the best possible team regardless of what the other teams do, and the real question is whether we achieve that by initiating a deep tank or by building with/around the current pieces. I personally hope we do the latter, but feel like the position our FO has put us in is more favourable for the former.
 
if the Rockettes offered Green and all the nets picks back for Bridges, how about Lauri for the same deal? Adding the Brooklyn picks to our current load feels fitting.
 
What? When the FO mailed it in we were worried if we can catch the Rockets in a race towards the bottom. Now all of a sudden they are significantly better?

Are you worried about the 42/33/80 Jalen Green or the 53/15/60 Amen Thompson turning into superstars? Or maybe its Cam Whitmore, who is close to worst in their internal BPM rankings and is probably the worst black hole we have seen a rookie been in a long time. Who are the guys Rockets have that are causing you to hyperventilate?

Sengun is great btw, but not like he is #1 in a contender level guy. Jalen Green has been hot as of late, but unless he seriously leveled up midseason its a hot stretch and despite improving him numbers lately his total body of work for the year is still very meh.

The rockets were riddled by injuries all year while we had been healthy. Amen Thompson is a beast so don't even try to go there and so is Whitmore. Then of course you don't even mention 20yr old Jabari Smith or Tari Eason who was great as a rookie but has been injured all year. Jalen Green is actually only my 5th favorite young player on that team but what he is doing right now is different than when he has gotten hot in the past. We are also talking about a 22yr old so continued improvement is likely. Also if we want to breakdown current rosters this is how I see it.

Lauri vs Sengun- This is pretty much a wash but Lauri has probably peaked while Sengun may be able to level up a little more.
Sexton vs Jalen- I would go with Sexton but Jalen Green seems to be leveling up
Key vs Amen- Very different players but now that Amen is getting big minutes he is showing how special he can be defensively. At this point I'm think it's pretty equal.
Walker vs Jabari- Jabari without a doubt
Hendricks vs Eason - Definitely Eason based on what we saw from him as a rookie
Brice vs Whitmore- Whitmore without a doubt
Clarkson vs FVV- FVV by a mile
Dunn vs Brooks- Brooks by a good margin

For me it's not particularly close between the young cores. They have a very good mix of offense and defense to go along with elite length and athleticism.
 
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