Archie Moses
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Chinese drones can't drop from 80,000' to 10' above the sea in a second.
View: https://www.npr.org/2021/06/25/1010382563/the-truth-is-still-out-there-report-says-it-didnt-find-evidence-ufos-were-aliens
Miggs
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You absolutely know this? Their tech is light year ahead of ours. Their AI as one example. Our own ex head of DHS has said so.
Archie Moses
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Absolutely know this? No.
That said, I'd bet my life their drone technology can't defy the laws of physics and turn on a dime while going thousands of MPH and move in a different direction without skipping a beat.
Just curious, are their any UFO stories that have made you question anything?
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This. To me any aliens capable of traveling here would be so far advanced they would not give 2 ***** about us, and I seriously doubt any research would be done on any level that would be worth the risk. If they wanted our resources, which is unlikely considering how small-scale we are and how much more abundant any of our resources are elsewhere in the universe, they would just come and take it, and we could do little to stop them. All this heroic sci-fi ******** is just that, ********. L Ron Hubbard got it right to a point in battlefield earth. They came and just had huge drones circling the planet dropping a gas that killed most of the life on the planet, targeted at humans. In a month or so it was all over. I don't care how many smart-*** fighter pilots you have, they would undoubtedly use AI far beyond our understanding for any kind of invasion and it would be over in a matter of weeks if not days. If we could, our best bet would be to negotiate a surrender of some kind, but my bet is that if an alien race made the effort and used the resources to get here, they would already be on the hunt for resources at a planetary destruction level, so odds are that would yield nothing. I just cannot see anything on the level of research going on where they would risk discovery or whatever to what, see what kind of food we eat? I mean we would be a curiosity perhaps, but nothing more. Humans tend to over-inflate our own importance and uniquity. Look at how many species on our own planet we just wiped out long before we cared enough to study them. We are just another species for them.
I imagine if it were a scenario where we were the only other sentient race they have ever found in their space-faring explorations it might be somewhat different, but I doubt we are the only sentient species in the universe, and even in our own galaxy. The drake equation could suggest as many as 10,000 sentient races out there. But it may only be 1. I guess it could be 2, but that seems less likely than 10,000 imo, just because the universe is so vast, and even our galaxy is so vast, that it seems if the conditions for life developed on 2 planets independent of each other that would imply those conditions can happen with some regularity, which to me implies there would more likely be either 1 sentient race right now (us), or a larger number. 2 seems too specific and too much like lightning striking exactly twice. So if we assume there are say even 100 sentient races in our galaxy and one of them has developed inter-stellar travel, what are the odds they 1) study all of the other 99 or 2) just choose us?
I don't know, it is an interesting subject. I just do not see us being unique enough to warrant sporadic investigatory missions over a century (or more like centuries with what most UFO believers posit) with no other activity and to incur that level of risk. It does make for fun sci-fi stories though.
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This is an interesting take on the subject of other intelligent species in the galaxy.
theconversation.com
Evolution tells us we might be the only intelligent life in the universe
Humans evolved through a series of highly unlikely events – so finding another intelligence like us would be like winning the lottery many times over.
theconversation.com
Red
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Ufology is a fun subject, I’ve enjoyed it since the 1950’s and the days of the big Washington D.C. flap, but, there’s $$$ to be had in meteorites, sometimes lots of money….And, given the detonations heard, this was no grain of sand, it was likely big, and likely dropped many meteorites. Finding them is another story, but the professional hunters will be giving it a shot by now…
Get eyewitness accounts of fireball from 3 cardinal directions, or video recordings from same, triangulate the witness reports, giving you the fireball’s path, and from that you have a good idea where any potential strewn field will be located. I have no idea what the terrain in the potential strewn field is like, how remote, etc. But, in general, it’s far better landing in a desert landscape than forested, in terms of potential recovery of meteorites. In the United States, meteorites belong to the property owner upon whose property they land. So, permission to hunt is required. Many dry lake beds, managed by the BLM, can be hunted, and any meteorites found, can be kept by the finder.
kutv.com
For the meteor to be so visible and so loud, it had to be of a substantial size. Ricketts noted that the shooting stars that are typically seen at night are like "little pieces of grains of sand flying through the atmosphere."
"The big one that we saw today is going to be much larger than a piece of grain of sand."
A lot bigger...
…..But where exactly could it have crashed? Ricketts had an educated guess.
Based on videos and projected paths, he said that the meteor could be somewhere in the Uinta Mountains near southwest Wyoming. And perhaps it landed in just the right location that a hiker -- who can spot the difference between Earth rocks and space rocks -- might happen upon it someday.
www.ksl.com
www.seti.org
Get eyewitness accounts of fireball from 3 cardinal directions, or video recordings from same, triangulate the witness reports, giving you the fireball’s path, and from that you have a good idea where any potential strewn field will be located. I have no idea what the terrain in the potential strewn field is like, how remote, etc. But, in general, it’s far better landing in a desert landscape than forested, in terms of potential recovery of meteorites. In the United States, meteorites belong to the property owner upon whose property they land. So, permission to hunt is required. Many dry lake beds, managed by the BLM, can be hunted, and any meteorites found, can be kept by the finder.
If meteor survived atmosphere, it could be somewhere in Utah - or maybe Nevada
Treasure hunters may have an opportunity to find the rarest prize of them all after a meteor crashed into the atmosphere and may have landed in northeast Utah.
kutv.com
For the meteor to be so visible and so loud, it had to be of a substantial size. Ricketts noted that the shooting stars that are typically seen at night are like "little pieces of grains of sand flying through the atmosphere."
"The big one that we saw today is going to be much larger than a piece of grain of sand."
A lot bigger...
…..But where exactly could it have crashed? Ricketts had an educated guess.
Based on videos and projected paths, he said that the meteor could be somewhere in the Uinta Mountains near southwest Wyoming. And perhaps it landed in just the right location that a hiker -- who can spot the difference between Earth rocks and space rocks -- might happen upon it someday.
The science behind the meteor-caused sonic boom heard over Utah
Why did this meteor possibly cause a sound when so many others cruise over Utah silently?
www.ksl.com
What part of a space rock survives to the ground?
www.seti.org
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