Sportando: Stanton Kidd expected to sign with the Jazz

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  1. Handlogten's Heros

    Handlogten's Heros Well-Known Member

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    1- I know... right? Maybe he is ready next year.

    2- 45 I believe

    3- It was Dave Friedman... he was the VP of something or other... didn't see him there this year. Didn't see Walt either... only front office guy was Dennis Lindsey (that I recognized).
     

  2. Thee jazz fan

    Thee jazz fan Well-Known Member

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    I can’t find anything about Kidd and the jazz other then SL stuff. Is this guy reliable?
     
  3. MDAV28

    MDAV28 Well-Known Member

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    The $1.3 seemed high and this says his total for the second year was only $900k so half was guaranteed. Not sure which is right, but $900k sounds more right to me.

    http://www.standard.net/Utah-Jazz/2016/08/24/joel-bolomboy-contract-salary-utah-jazz
     
  4. Handlogten's Heros

    Handlogten's Heros Well-Known Member

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    His guarantee date was actually in January 2017 for the 2017-18 year, so he was already a sunk cost by the preseason. So the Jazz guaranteed Royce to compete for that spot...

    I think the Niang/Kidd is different though and because I don't think we'd throw guaranteed money at both just to bring them to camp. I think they had doubts on Joel and liked Royce... one was a sunk cost, so to get Royce (who many thought was going to get guaranteed money) they had to give out real money.
     
  5. Handlogten's Heros

    Handlogten's Heros Well-Known Member

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    Those contracts were grossed up for cap mechanics... we may have only had to pay the $900k with the rest coming from some league slush fund thingy... like how teams only pay a certain amount of minimum deals and the rest is subsidized by the league.
     
  6. MDAV28

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    I'm pretty sure that's only for vets on the minimum. Not rookie minimums.
     
  7. Handlogten's Heros

    Handlogten's Heros Well-Known Member

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    According to basketball reference he was already guaranteed... the guarantee date was the year prior. Weird structure and they gave Royce guaranteed money to come into camp... so either way your point stands that they paid extra $$$ to bring more guys into camp than they could carry.
     
  8. Handlogten's Heros

    Handlogten's Heros Well-Known Member

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    It was a one time cap spike adjustment... he signed the year prior and then they adjusted all minimums from 900k to 1.3M and because it was a weird one-time adjustment I think the league picked up the tab (I could be wrong there, but remember hearing something about that).
     
  9. MDAV28

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    I think it may have more to do with how the offseason went. The Jazz would probably prefer not to spend dead money like that but they also would probably have preferred to keep Gordon.

    Either way I don't think the Jazz offer guaranteed money to both unless there's guaranteed offers out there from other teams, which by then it may be too late.
     
  10. Saint Cy of JFC

    Saint Cy of JFC Well-Known Member

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    Pretty sure it was October 1st.
     
  11. Handlogten's Heros

    Handlogten's Heros Well-Known Member

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  12. MDAV28

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    Oh yeah you're right. So yeah it would have only been another $450k commitment when they guaranteed him for camp.
     
  13. homeytennis

    homeytennis Well-Known Member

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    Would it be legal to give Kidd like a $500,000 signing bonus, sign him to a make the final 15 contract, and then if he doesn't sign him to a two way contract or a Stars contact with paltry GLeague money?
     
  14. Saint Cy of JFC

    Saint Cy of JFC Well-Known Member

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    That would make more sense, but at the time it seemed to be everyone was under the impression it was October 1st.
     
  15. Handlogten's Heros

    Handlogten's Heros Well-Known Member

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    Agree... maybe they sign both and guarantee like $275k (the G league max two way salary) this year and winner gets the spot. Not sure it's legal, but I could see the guys signing one of those deals. Have a mid October guarantee date.
     
  16. MDAV28

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    It's not, the league prevented that loophole. You can sign them to minimum deals with the Exhibit 10 attachment which gives the Jazz the right to convert it to a two-way contract before the season. The problem with that is it can only be a one-year minimum which limits the upside from the Jazz perspective.
     
  17. Handlogten's Heros

    Handlogten's Heros Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I couldn't find anything else, so it makes some sense... many of our reporters were also under the impression we could trade the NG players and take on salary too... Jazz are kinda tight lipped about this stuff.

    Long story short... I'm a huge Niang fan but wouldn't be surprised if we picked Kidd for the last roster spot. He seems like he could be a good 3 and D type... get another one on the cheap and it really benefits your roster planning and budgeting.
     
  18. infection

    infection Well-Known Member Staff Member 2018 Award Winner

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    Yeah, but what if you've got a max guy like Niang locked up on a minimum deal?
     
  19. Handlogten's Heros

    Handlogten's Heros Well-Known Member

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    You have a point... Niang is so fun... that touch pass on the break yesterday.

    Maybe we cut/trade AB... I don't know... I need Lavar's power to speak things into existence. I could see both guys being high level role players, but Niang is more fun to me... in a Joe Ingles "how the hell is that guy good" way.
     
  20. Eenie-Meenie

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    We should trade AB to a team that will give him PT for a second rounder. He needs a reboot. I think he still has a future in the NBA but as the Jazz are now constituted, no way. If he had been able to transition to the point and be a Lou Williams-type player, he would've been great but he doesn't have the mid-range skills of Lou.
     

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