Stars Off the Schneid

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  1. homeytennis

    homeytennis Well-Known Member

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    Stars lose by 5 at home after trailing 10-0 to start. Stars were down 20 late and rallied and had a chance to tie but Oni stepped put of bounds. Stars had a 1 point lead twice in the game in the first quarter. Brantley and JWF over 20, Morgan the leading rebounder with 8 to go with 3 points. Oni 13, Bluiett 12 and Scott 10 in double figures. Oni lead the team in assists. NWG 2 points and left with an injury. The starting lineup of Morgan, Brantley, Oni, NWG and JWF looked as bad as you could possibly look the first half of the first quarter. Turnovers, bricks and matador defense. Collinsworth, Reed and Haas did not dress but Willie was wearing a Kansas City Chiefs sweatshirt on the bench. Fun fact: Rayjohn Tucker is the leading scorer in the GLeague now for his games in Wisconsin.
     
  2. Catchall

    Catchall Well-Known Member 2019 Prediction Contest Winner

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    Nice game for Brantley. He hit 3 of his 8 3pt attempts, pushed the ball and got on top of the rim a few times. Finished with 23/7/4 and 1 steal.

     
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  3. homeytennis

    homeytennis Well-Known Member

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    He almost willed them to an amazing comeback. Whatever bug the Jazz have, it seems the Stars have caught it too.
     
  4. homeytennis

    homeytennis Well-Known Member

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    Stars won tonight at Santa Cruz. The heroes were Oni, Brantley and JWF. The Stars were undermanned. No Morgan, NWG, Collinsworth, Reed or Bluiett. Stars bench played like studs. Haas 10 points 11 boards, Mike Scott 10 points, Benlevi 10 points and Pryor lead the team in assists with 8. Oni also had 11 boards.
     
  5. homeytennis

    homeytennis Well-Known Member

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    The Stars effort last night showed what hustle, playing D and some fortitude can do. They had a bunch of their better players not suited up or not there. Their bench which would probably be viewed as subpar talent for this level just flat balled out. The dude they picked up off the street was 4-6 from the field. Another guy that played in Mexico last year played like a stud. Isaac Haas had a double double in less than 20 minutes. They played hard and wanted to be there. I wish I could say the same for the Jazz now.
     
  6. homeytennis

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    This is from an article about how Abdul Gaddy deserves to be signed by ab NBA team. In going through the author's metrics NWG's name gets spit out: "Over OKC’s last 15 games, the veteran guard has impressed by averaging 13.4 points, 9.6 assists, and 3.2 rebounds on 48% from the field and 52% from beyond the arc on 2.8 attempts per game, Those great numbers become even more impressive when you combine it with him maintaining a 63% True Shooting Percentage and 3.3 Ast/TO ratio during that period. Utah Jazz guard Nigel Williams-Goss and Minnesota Timberwolves two-way prospect Jordan McLaughlin are the only guards besides Gaddy to maintain a 62% True Shooting Percentage and 3.0 Ast/TO ratio. "
     
  7. Catchall

    Catchall Well-Known Member 2019 Prediction Contest Winner

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    Brantley is averaging 19/7/3.5 with 1.6 stls. I don't know what he's supposed to prove in the G-league at this point, other than get some run and some shots up. In his last 6 games, he's averaged 23/7/3.

    Justin Wright-Foreman is averaging 17 ppg and shooting 40% from 3pt. I think most of that will translate if we want another guy on the floor who can shoot.
     
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  8. homeytennis

    homeytennis Well-Known Member

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    I'm wondering if the front office is comparing them to Naz and Cavanaugh from last year and cavalierly saying "Nah you ain't prospects?".
     
  9. Handlogten's Heros

    Handlogten's Heros Well-Known Member 2019 Award Winner

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    I think the plan was for them to spend the year in the g league and be emergency only options. I think our rotation has gotten rough and these guys have done well and should be given a shot. Brantley and Morgan aren’t going to be allowed to play the same way they are in the g league. We need to see if they work or have potential to work inside a much smaller role. I think sometimes too much g league isn’t great for development.

    I played in a couple different men’s leagues with wildly different levels of competition... in one league I was one of the best players and was leading scorer on my team... in the other I was the fifth starter and primarily a spot up shooter, ball mover... it was a tough adjustment at times.
     
  10. Handlogten's Heros

    Handlogten's Heros Well-Known Member 2019 Award Winner

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    Honestly... @infection knows what will happen with these guys... we won’t play them at all this year because they “aren’t ready”. We then go into free agency and don’t upgrade because we don’t want to block their development... then we will end up being forced to play them without knowing they can perform.

    I don’t think we are contenders... I think the tone of this season should change a bit... be good but try some stuff to find what works. Get some data for next year while we either lose in the first round or get a favorable matchup then lose in the second round.
     
  11. homeytennis

    homeytennis Well-Known Member

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    Krysko the UofUtah coach was a GLeague coach and said the toughest thing for GLeague players to realize is that the NBA team isn't going to run a play for them despite their star status at the lower level. They have to set picks, play D and rebound to stick around.
     
  12. homeytennis

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    Stars win in OT after missing three free throws in the last 20 seconds. Brantley was a beast with 28 points 13 boards and 8 assists. Brantley lead the Stars in every category and he, JWF and Rayjohn Tucker were named GLeague all-stars. Bluiett had 23 points and JWF hit a big shot in OT. Pryor and Haas had 11 rebounds and were both +11 in the box score. Former lottery selection Cameron Payne had a big scoring game for Texas. NWG out with a "leg contusion," Willie Reed with the groin and Collinsworth still sick.
     
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    Damn, Cam Payne in the G League now? I remember after we drafted Lyles, fans of other teams said we were dumb for not taking Payne because we needed a point guard lol.
     
  14. Catchall

    Catchall Well-Known Member 2019 Prediction Contest Winner

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    This dude is going to be good...

     
  15. rare144

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    How's his defense and rebounding?
     
  16. Catchall

    Catchall Well-Known Member 2019 Prediction Contest Winner

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    14 boards tonight. He was battling a couple of bigger forwards all night.
     
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    Worst defensive rating on team among regular players. Wouldn't trust this stat totally. But all of us expecting him to be able to come in and provide solid defense immediately are over-optimistic, I think. He may be built a lot like PJ Tucker, but there's no way his defense is anywhere close to Tucker's level.
     
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    He's young. He has some tools. It will not be prime level, but he can get there. His offense is great. He can provide a punch and SPACE the floor.
     
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  19. homeytennis

    homeytennis Well-Known Member

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    It looks to me like he could use this summer to get in better shape and lose some baby fat. That will help some of the defensive stuff.
     
  20. tonstermits

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    I wish we could see him get a few mins in the big leagues
     
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