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seattlejazzfan said:
this true. just not as a pg. my concern is that they continue to try to fit a square peg in to a round hole with him.
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You think Atlanta is going to develop him to be a fulltime PG when they have Trae Young? He's going to be a hybrid player, as is almost every modern PG/SG who has any ball skills. It's not a square peg in the slightest.
 
stitches said:
Then why even make a point about him being from France? It's ****ing dumb. I'm sorry but it is. If he sucks because of things you can see on the floor, why make a point about something so irrelevant?

This has to be one of the dumbest discussions on this board. You have a player in the same league, ON THE SAME TEAM that is universally considered the best prospect in however many years and literally everybody would take him no.1... but the problem with Bilal is not that he's unproductive period... it's that he's unproductive in France... DA ***!!?!?
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It’s truly insane. He averaged like 5 points a game, but also did you know that Killian Haynes happened to step on a French LNB court!!!
 
HermanG said:
Bufkin is long ways from being a legit NBA player. Has had some good moments in SL but also really bad ones, and perhaps more of the latter.

Those who give huge value to flashes may be high on him, but I prefer to look for things that a player does well consistently and Bufkin doesnt check many boxes there yet.
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Before the draft I expressed my concern about these sophomore guards who pop after a mediocre freshman season in college. Recent history has not been kind to them in the NBA.
Johnny Davis comes to mind as another although Bufkin has the better all around tools.
FWIW from all the rumors the Hawks might make a big splash between now and training camp to potentially acquire either KAT or Siakam. I'm a bit doubtful Bufkin is
even on their roster in a few months.
 
KqWIN said:
It’s truly insane. He averaged like 5 points a game, but also did you know that Killian Haynes happened to step on a French LNB court!!!
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Its insane to think its insane to discuss where a player played when a discussing a player.
Literally every player drafted is mentioned where they played at prior to being drafted and some places have a better track record than others.
for instance, im not sure if you follow college football but players who play at alabama are generally thought to become better players in the nfl than players who play at unlv. Its really not unusual. And not a big deal. certainly not insane lol.
 
fishonjazz said:
Its insane to think its insane to discuss where a player played when a discussing a player.
Literally every player drafted is mentioned where they played at prior to being drafted and some places have a better track record than others.
for instance, im not sure if you follow college football but players who play at alabama are generally thought to become better players in the nfl than players who play at unlv. Its really not unusual. And not a big deal. certainly not insane lol.
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No sir... you look at flashes of when he does cool ****... measure his wingspan... put his *** on the balance beam... see how he is at juggling. Simply struggling to produce in a league that doesn't produce a lot of NBA talent means nothing. You are lazy and you really have to have an eye for this.

The good news for those that are all in on Bilal is that the runway with guys like that is crazy long... Dante had like 5 years that were basically his rookie season. I'm all for taking calculated risks but a project like that is not something I'm excited about in the top 10. For example... if Dante had only cost us a top 5 pick that would have been okay... the opportunity costs when we didn't pivot earlier were costly too.
 
fishonjazz said:
Its insane to think its insane to discuss where a player played when a discussing a player.
Literally every player drafted is mentioned where they played at prior to being drafted and some places have a better track record than others.
for instance, im not sure if you follow college football but players who play at alabama are generally thought to become better players in the nfl than players who play at unlv. Its really not unusual. And not a big deal. certainly not insane lol.
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Ok Fish. Now let's critically think: Why are Bama football players highly regarded? Is it because they went to Bama or is it because highly rated HSers go to Alabama?

Are the Bama walk ons turning pro just because they went to Bama?
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
No sir... you look at flashes of when he does cool ****... measure his wingspan... put his *** on the balance beam... see how he is at juggling. Simply struggling to produce in a league that doesn't produce a lot of NBA talent means nothing. You are lazy and you really have to have an eye for this.

The good news for those that are all in on Bilal is that the runway with guys like that is crazy long... Dante had like 5 years that were basically his rookie season. I'm all for taking calculated risks but a project like that is not something I'm excited about in the top 10. For example... if Dante had only cost us a top 5 pick that would have been okay... the opportunity costs when we didn't pivot earlier were costly too.
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If you have a low appetite for predrafting just say so.

And just stop with the BS about Bilal struggling to produce. He didn't struggle to produce. He played a certain role and he was absolutely producing in that role if you actually watched the games.
 
HermanG said:
Bufkin is long ways from being a legit NBA player. Has had some good moments in SL but also really bad ones, and perhaps more of the latter.

Those who give huge value to flashes may be high on him, but I prefer to look for things that a player does well consistently and Bufkin doesnt check many boxes there yet.
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I've watched about 5 quarters worth of Bufkin so far and in my opinion he has looked pretty good doing non point guard things and really bad doing point guard things.

FWIW I think he'll be fine.
 
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