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That was 36 years ago. I must’ve blacked out because I don’t have a single memory of that time. Lol


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Insult and intimidation have become a central part of many progressive arguments. It's too bad. I really appreciate guys like Red who can have a conversation about politics without calling into question my intelligence and morality simply because we disagree. I think lots of people with conservative views simply keep their mouths shut (until they step into the voting booth) because they do not enjoy being shamed.
Joe B it's not just progressives that are insulting.

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It’s incredibly obvious that he’s partisan.

I’m just saying it’s highly amusing when he slams people on the other side for being partisan. I like to call him out on it.

The vast majority of people posting on a political thread ARE partisan. Own it. Recognize it. But Thriller just acts like the same people he cries about.

You, @Joe Bagadonuts and apparently now @Archie Moses have a bad tendency of responding to gutter trash.
 
To me he is an articulate Dutch, nothing more.

I agree that sometimes you have to take a stand. Absolutely. Where I disagree is that this stand must be team A or team B. Not liking one team says nothing, absolutely nothing, about ones feelings for team B.

I openly disparage and ridicule them both. To me trying to assign who the bigger group of assholes and degenerates is wasted effort. Do we really care that one mountain of **** is 5 miles high and the other is 20 miles high? Either way we drown in ****.

Yes, I hope the Ds take the House. Mainly to slow down the Rs. I wanted the Rs to take a house under Obama for the same reason. I have zero faith in either party. And loudly call for expanded parties and push people to break the R and D mold.

Is that itself not a stand. Enough ******** already.

Oh and don’t confirm Kavanaugh. He’s not the right person.
This, in spades. It is hilarious how many people here (an in our country really) have this fallacy that if you aren't for one side you must be 100% for the other. And it is intellectually lazy to keep saying "oh not another 'both sides suck' comment". Both sides do suck. There is a middle in this country, and frankly the vast majority of people actually fall somewhere to the right of the left and to the left of the right. The best thing we could have happen in our political world would be the rise of a third viable party.

I cannot stand Trump. He has proven himself to be a misogynist, racist, self-serving, unstable blow-hard. Sorry, but that truth, does not make a claim that the democrats then are the exact opposite, without fault and perfect in every way, to be true. It is truly a lesser of 2 evils right now. And the in-fighting is worse than it has ever been in our country. It is painfully obvious, for those who can slip the blinders long enough to look, that both sides are only about the power. Not that the power dynamic hasn't always been an issue, but how often in the last 20 years have you heard about politicians voting against party lines because it is what their constituency would want, or because it is for the betterment of the country, or because they realize that to help people we need some compromise? Hardly ever, imo. There was a time not too long ago (if 30 years isn't too long, feels short when you are getting old), when this happened with some regularity, and the government not so arguably ran far better than it does now. How many times in the history of our country has a congress failed to pass a budget? It is becoming more and more common for the disagreements to extend out the time to pass budgetary bills.

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So stop the act that, since the republicans right now are largely assholes and degenerates (Jazz Fanz company excepted of course, and not really representative of the entirety of the republican party), it does not immediately mean that all democrats need to be sainted for their purity and moral superiority. They are all power-hungry. And the partisanship right now is incredibly damaging to the US as a whole.

So it is not only possible, but reasonable and logical, to be unhappy with both sides. If your kids are playing in the mud, will you punish the one who is the dirtiest and reward the one who might be less dirty at the moment?

But yes, right now we need some parity in congress to balance out the crap. A ****-scale if you will, balanced by cow pies on one side and dog turds on the other. Because the worst possible scenarios play out when only the ******* or the ******* run the entire show.
 
Joe B it's not just progressives that are insulting.

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I'm sure you are right, but as I think through the conversations I've been a part of this kind of behavior seems to have become more prevalent on the left.

For example, I rarely look at Facebook but last night I did. I saw a post a friend made flipping off the Trump Tower and read dozens of sympathetic replies. There were non-angry, non-hateful responses. Then I saw a post that another friend made in support of Kavanaugh. You would have thought the poster murdered several people's babies by the level of angry responses he received.

I have been called a lot of names and characterized in a lot of negative ways on this site. I don't think I've said anything to elicit such a venomous response, but it seems to be the way that many on the left respond these days. I'm probably overlooking something, but I can not think of many similar hateful responses to left-wing posters.
You, @Joe Bagadonuts and apparently now @Archie Moses have a bad tendency of responding to gutter trash.
Please give me an example of what you're accusing me of.
 
I see it a little differently. I think he's slamming people for being partisan while pretending not to be. There are plenty of people on this board that fit the bill there.

I also don't think it's fair to compare him to l Dutch. They both come on really strong, and can be abrasive, but Thriller is factual in his discussions. Dutch is a fountain of unmitigated ********.

He is every bit as hateful, rude, demeaning and twisted at Dutch.

Put all the lipstick on a pig you want...
 
So... in a nutshell, the Republicans are presuming Kavanaugh is innocent unless/until sufficient evidence indicates otherwise. The Democrats are presuming Kavanaugh likely did assault Ford because #ibelieveher, and even if he didn't do it, they don't like him due to his temperament. Both sides are politically motivated, split along party lines, grandstanding, and have the same position as they did since before Kavanuagh was named as the nominee.
 
I'm sure you are right, but as I think through the conversations I've been a part of this kind of behavior seems to have become more prevalent on the left.

For example, I rarely look at Facebook but last night I did. I saw a post a friend made flipping off the Trump Tower and read dozens of sympathetic replies. There were non-angry, non-hateful responses. Then I saw a post that another friend made in support of Kavanaugh. You would have thought the poster murdered several people's babies by the level of angry responses he received.

I have been called a lot of names and characterized in a lot of negative ways on this site. I don't think I've said anything to elicit such a venomous response, but it seems to be the way that many on the left respond these days. I'm probably overlooking something, but I can not think of many similar hateful responses to left-wing posters.
Please give me an example of what you're accusing me of.

I definitely think both sides insult. I've even insulted people in this thread. The difference is, imo, my character was attacked out of assumptions, and I was labeled something I'm not and told who I get my information from (I didn't even know two of the three dudes lol.)

It irks me when people's automatic default settings are to tell people they're alt right, a nazi, racist, ect because that's become the easy, go to norm and is their way of thinking, I'm right and morally superior sjw and you're wrong and a terrible person.

I got labeled alt right by Thriller for asking questions about something I don't know all the facts about. I find this offensive because it implies things that I don't want to be associated with, to the slightest degree. It's ******** and cowardly to say.
 
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