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To add a bit: rigid adherence to a very stringent set of ideas, without regard in any fashion to changes in facts, circumstances, or cultural mores, is actually the mark of a terrible judge.

Conservative orthodoxy is presently engaged in a very long game of perverse selection when it comes to the judiciary.

Particularly with the first amendment cases we’ve seen recently.

Life Advocates v Becerra?
“We need to defend the first amendment from authoritarianism. Religion/free speech must be protected!”
Trump v Hawaii? “ummm... Defending Islam isn’t the type of free speech we want. Let’s merely disregard everything Donald trump has said about this ban (i e admitting it was a Muslim ban) and just hope that authoritarianism doesn’t spread.”

It’ll be interesting to see in the next few years the effects of this conservative SC. In a country that is dying from wealth inequality and corruption, poor worker’s rights, and empowering more women, we seem to be moving in the opposite direction.
 
According to the US law, what is the maximum damage the Supreme Court can cause to either a single person or company? Assuming all those members are as evil as possible. I.e can the Supreme Court alone pass/force any harassing laws etc.
They don't write the laws themselves, but could do major damage by allowing, and setting future precedent for any horrible law that is passed by any kind of horrible group of lawmakers at a lower level.
 
Particularly with the first amendment cases we’ve seen recently.

Life Advocates v Becerra?
“We need to defend the first amendment from authoritarianism. Religion/free speech must be protected!”
Trump v Hawaii? “ummm... Defending Islam isn’t the type of free speech we want. Let’s merely disregard everything Donald trump has said about this ban (i e admitting it was a Muslim ban) and just hope that authoritarianism doesn’t spread.”

It’ll be interesting to see in the next few years the effects of this conservative SC. In a country that is dying from wealth inequality and corruption, poor worker’s rights, and empowering more women, we seem to be moving in the opposite direction.

Ahh you forgot that they just signed the death certificate of American labor unions.
 
They don't write the laws themselves, but could do major damage by allowing, and setting future precedent for any horrible law that is passed by any kind of horrible group of lawmakers at a lower level.
Colton, what are the worse top3 laws in history of USA, that were activated thanks to the combination of bad lawmakers and bad group of SCOTUS? Am i correct that the only way to abolish bad laws approved by SCOTUS is to replace all SCOTUS members with better ones?
 
Ahh you forgot that they just signed the death certificate of American labor unions.
If not being able to forcibly take money from people who have chosen not to be in a union is the death of unions then unions absolutely deserve to die. If unions have value then it seems that the people they serve would join them and pay dues. This crazy idea that the way for unions to survive is to allow them to take money from people who don't want to be in them and don't want to give them money is ridiculous.
 
If not being able to forcibly take money from people who have chosen not to be in a union is the death of unions then unions absolutely deserve to die. If unions have value then it seems that the people they serve would join them and pay dues. This crazy idea that the way for unions to survive is to allow them to take money from people who don't want to be in them and don't want to give them money is ridiculous.

From my understanding public sector unions are required to offer their services to non-members as well as members. Seems like it was 'unfair' both ways to me before the ruling in a way that somewhat balanced out. Now it seems like a way to hamstring unions, as they're legally required to offer their service, but aren't allowed to require payments.
 
If not being able to forcibly take money from people who have chosen not to be in a union is the death of unions then unions absolutely deserve to die. If unions have value then it seems that the people they serve would join them and pay dues. This crazy idea that the way for unions to survive is to allow them to take money from people who don't want to be in them and don't want to give them money is ridiculous.

Are you familiar with the issues engendered by free-riders?
 
If not being able to forcibly take money from people who have chosen not to be in a union is the death of unions then unions absolutely deserve to die. If unions have value then it seems that the people they serve would join them and pay dues. This crazy idea that the way for unions to survive is to allow them to take money from people who don't want to be in them and don't want to give them money is ridiculous.

the CFMEU would beg to differ
 
If not being able to forcibly take money from people who have chosen not to be in a union is the death of unions then unions absolutely deserve to die. If unions have value then it seems that the people they serve would join them and pay dues. This crazy idea that the way for unions to survive is to allow them to take money from people who don't want to be in them and don't want to give them money is ridiculous.

Why join a union when you can just freeload off of them?

If you’re a teacher (for example) you benefit from the union and their fighting for pay increases, benefits, and protections even if you’re a nonmember. Some states forced teachers to join the union to maintain the union’s ability to fight for your compensation.

From what I understand about this ruling:

This essentially weakens unions. Now its unconstitutional to charge fees/force workers to join the union even if members benefit from their negoitations. Will we see a mass exodus of people leaving the unions where they are already strong? Probably not. But it certainly doesn’t strengthen them. And it will probably force them to be even more picky about which battles to fight since their ability to raise money has been hamstrung.

It’s funny. American workers (especially trumpers) bitch nonstop about “the elites” and whine about wealth inequality. Yet the very vessels that would help their cause they attack. I guess it’s just much easier to blame brown people, Hollywood actors, and “the unions” for your plight.

Furthermore, it’s hard to compete with the Kochs and Mercers who are legally able to spend as much as they want on elections and political party bribes while unions are hamstrung. How are democrats supposed to compete if unions are crushed and if republicans keep bribing big corporations with tax cut handouts?

Big win for the oligarchs like the Kochs and Devoses.
Big loss for unions, democrats, and workers in general. A weak union makes for weak workers.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...df6bf4-7a0c-11e8-80be-6d32e182a3bc_story.html
 
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I’m a union member and will continue to be so and pay my fees.

But I think this is the right decision. People shouldn’t be forced to pay.
 
I’m a union member and will continue to be so and pay my fees.

But I think this is the right decision. People shouldn’t be forced to pay.

Why join if you can just freeload?
 
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