Supreme Court Justice Kennedy to Retire

[Red]

So the Republicans pull a 42,000 page document dump on the Friday night before hearings began, sort of a "pedal to the metal" move, and the Democrats bring up a 30 year old maybe, sort of a "let's apply the brakes" move, but the latter is political, and the former is not?

 

[RandyForRubio]

So the Republicans pull a 42,000 page document dump on the Friday night before hearings began, sort of a "pedal to the metal" move, and the Democrats bring up a 30 year old maybe, sort of a "let's apply the brakes" move, but the latter is political, and the former is not?

It’s all political.

We’ve also seen Democrats say back in June/July (I can’t remember) that they weren’t going to vote for Kavanaugh...but now they say they need more time? They’re all a bunch of idiots, but one side is definitely grandstanding more than the other. *coughIAMSPARTACUS*cough*

If only they were all like Ben Sasse.

 

[RandyForRubio]

So the Republicans pull a 42,000 page document dump on the Friday night before hearings began, sort of a "pedal to the metal" move, and the Democrats bring up a 30 year old maybe, sort of a "let's apply the brakes" move, but the latter is political, and the former is not?

I’d also like to appreciate the irony of the page dump (by both sides!) when just several years ago we heard “we have to pass it to find out what’s in it.”

 

[Zombie]

It’s all political.

We’ve also seen Democrats say back in June/July (I can’t remember) that they weren’t going to vote for Kavanaugh...but now they say they need more time? They’re all a bunch of idiots, but one side is definitely grandstanding more than the other. *coughIAMSPARTACUS*cough*

If only they were all like Ben Sasse.

Lol

 

[colton]

Hey so anyway turns out Kavanaugh may have committed sexual assault in the 80's.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news...ats-in-congress/amp?__twitter_impression=true

Something interesting about this, within a single day of this story breaking the Senate Republicans produce a letter signed by 65 women who claim to have known him at the time and are essentially vouching for him as a good man.

What's strange to me is that, first it's really not much of a defense. It's not like men who commit sexual assault do it to every woman they know. It's like a murderer pointing to all the people he didn't kill.

I found it pretty credible. 65 character witness putting their name to an affidavit vs. 1 anonymous accuser.

 

[Gameface]

Yeah, this anonymous accuser stuff... I'm sorry. If you want to take a stand, take a stand.

Same with the anonymous op-ed writer. If you want to resist, resist. But put some skin in the game.

This letter is meaningless to me until a person stands up and says that they wrote it and they will stand behind it. This cannot be a factor in determining if we confirm a Supreme Court Justice or not unless someone is willing to put their name to it and allow the accused to respond.

I'm tired of people publishing articles with unnamed sources and writing books and talking about letters. If people have something to say they need to say it. There is a place for anonymous sources, but as the every day standard it just isn't okay.

There are people who put themselves out there every day for the things they believe in. Damn the consequences. If these people can't do the same I don't care what they say.

 

[Stoked]

Even if that's the case, that doesn't let him off the hook.

But it does cast severe doubt on the very anonymous accusation. For all we know Feinstein is making it all up.

I found it pretty credible. 65 character witness putting their name to an affidavit vs. 1 anonymous accuser.

1, third party ALLEGED accuser.

Has it even been proven the letter truly exists and that it is from a third party, previously unconnected to Feinstein?

 

[Red]

Yeah, this anonymous accuser stuff... I'm sorry. If you want to take a stand, take a stand.

Same with the anonymous op-ed writer. If you want to resist, resist. But put some skin in the game.

This letter is meaningless to me until a person stands up and says that they wrote it and they will stand behind it. This cannot be a factor in determining if we confirm a Supreme Court Justice or not unless someone is willing to put their name to it and allow the accused to respond.

I'm tired of people publishing articles with unnamed sources and writing books and talking about letters. If people have something to say they need to say it. There is a place for anonymous sources, but as the every day standard it just isn't okay.

There are people who put themselves out there every day for the things they believe in. Damn the consequences. If these people can't do the same I don't care what they say.

I'm not crazy about Woodward's interviews being conducted under journalistic "deep background" rules, meaning all information can be used, while names are withheld. On the other hand, according to Woodward, all those interviews were taped, which is important from the perspective of future historians, assuming, as I do, that those tapes will be protected and not destroyed. "Deep Throat", the most important source used by Woodward and Bernstein in their investigation into Watergate, helped lead to Nixon's resignation. His identity went unknown for decades before being revealed by Woodward.

Of course, we want to know now, and not leave it to future historians to reveal identities. But, there are lots of names revealed in Woodward's book as well, and specific events spelled out, to be coorborated by others.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

So the Republicans pull a 42,000 page document dump on the Friday night before hearings began, sort of a "pedal to the metal" move, and the Democrats bring up a 30 year old maybe, sort of a "let's apply the brakes" move, but the latter is political, and the former is not?

Are you kidding? Politicians of both parties are playing endless politics. They are destroying us. There is a huge divide between how the left and right believe this country should be run, and the conversation is moving to the extremes. A short time ago you could have found many Dems (including prominent leaders) who were supporting policies that they now abhor. Immigration policy is just one example.

Let's hope that politicians capable of taking the middle ground show up soon.

 

[RandyForRubio]

Are you kidding? Politicians of both parties are playing endless politics. They are destroying us. There is a huge divide between how the left and right believe this country should be run, and the conversation is moving to the extremes. A short time ago you could have found many Dems (including prominent leaders) who were supporting policies that they now abhor. Immigration policy is just one example.

Let's hope that politicians capable of taking the middle ground show up soon.

Ben Sasse!

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

Ben Sasse!

I've seen him speak a couple of times. Seems pretty intelligent. I hope you're right about him.

 

[Red]

Are you kidding? Politicians of both parties are playing endless politics. They are destroying us. There is a huge divide between how the left and right believe this country should be run, and the conversation is moving to the extremes. A short time ago you could have found many Dems (including prominent leaders) who were supporting policies that they now abhor. Immigration policy is just one example.

Let's hope that politicians capable of taking the middle ground show up soon.

No, I wasn't kidding. Just didn't want the Republican games to get lost in the shuffle, lol. So I just put it that way to see what anyone would say. What, you think I'm out to lunch, here? Lol, don't answer that....