Takes on the 1st and 2nd-year players....and progress if there happens to be any
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If we can't talk about what young players might become, then we cannot talk about any draft prospects and can only talk about what players have done so far. What are we doing here? Of course we can discuss potential and what we think a player might become. A whole lot better than talking about what they are right now.
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I just don’t think Key is a pg. I think it’s fine to try him there. It’s not one thing in particular but I’d like to see him play some with Collier or Mills more so he can go off ball a bit and have someone set him up.
I think Brice deserves more time. Even if it comes at the expense of my beloved Tay Henny. He’s rebounding and trying hard on defense. Has been weirdly good at jumping passing lanes. Needs a few more minutes to find his nba identity.
Williams will take a minute. He’s fine.
Taylor has been mostly fine. Shot like **** the last game.
Overall none of these guys are good enough to ruin the tank which is good and bad.
I want Collier back badly. He is a lot more fun than Patty.
I think Brice deserves more time. Even if it comes at the expense of my beloved Tay Henny. He’s rebounding and trying hard on defense. Has been weirdly good at jumping passing lanes. Needs a few more minutes to find his nba identity.
Williams will take a minute. He’s fine.
Taylor has been mostly fine. Shot like **** the last game.
Overall none of these guys are good enough to ruin the tank which is good and bad.
I want Collier back badly. He is a lot more fun than Patty.
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None of our guys were super high draft picks….the point of this season is to get a high draft pick. Some may see my view on the prospects as negative, but I actually think we’ve done ok given the position where we’ve drafted from.
Still, you can have consecutive top 5 picks and still not find that guy. HOU has had four in a row, and while it’s early and I like some them….none of them look like sure all stars. They took the guy they were supposed to take pretty each time as well.
Still, you can have consecutive top 5 picks and still not find that guy. HOU has had four in a row, and while it’s early and I like some them….none of them look like sure all stars. They took the guy they were supposed to take pretty each time as well.
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The question for me is not about how good they are relative to where they were selected, it is how good of players are we getting relative to what we gave up to get them.
It's a fair perspective and a question we'll be asking ourselves for awhile. Mitchell and Gobert were very special players. While I don't think Lauri is quite on their level, we may face that dilemma once again.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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Lot of doom and gloom like the rookies and second year players have reached their peeks already. Lmao. I told all of you this needed to be a 5-7 year rebuild. It doesn’t happen over night unless you want to just be average like we’ve done the last 25 years. The reason Danny hasn’t drafted top 5 ultimate superstars is because we are picking 9-10. That’s only partially on Danny because he should’ve sold off 90% of all the players they got in trade for Don And Gobert. But looks like we are on track this year. Now I’m praying for one of those famous Lauri knee contusions that take a month to heal then he can aggravate it for another month stint on the bench. We need a top 3 pick desperately then Danny can work his magic.
But in conclusion some of you sound like these first and second year players have already reached as good as they’re going to get. The reality is they haven’t even began to tap into their development yet, and I’m not saying these guys will be stars. It’s Danny’s fault we haven’t had higher picks but he hasn’t made bad picks. He just needs better picks. And we need to be bottom shelf for at least another three years and Markkanen and Sextin need to go.
But in conclusion some of you sound like these first and second year players have already reached as good as they’re going to get. The reality is they haven’t even began to tap into their development yet, and I’m not saying these guys will be stars. It’s Danny’s fault we haven’t had higher picks but he hasn’t made bad picks. He just needs better picks. And we need to be bottom shelf for at least another three years and Markkanen and Sextin need to go.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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Sad that I have to be the voice of reason around here.
Who said we can't talk about what young players might become? There is a difference between talking about what a player might become and passing judgement on a player a couple games into the season. Two games is not even close to enough time to know if our second year guys have improved and if our rooks are any good like some people want to do.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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Well two games ain’t enough. Its lazy and idiotic
Players could have played zero games and it’s ok to assess their potential and what player they might come. There’s this thing called the draft that people love to talk about. I would say it’s lazy and idiotic to have no opinions about a player’s future.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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Nope because after the draft Cody was a can’t miss star now everyone calling him a role player after two games so sure you can talk about it, but doesn’t mean it isn’t fruitless and idiotic and shows iq’s actually having that thread. There’s nothing wrong with talking about it, still lazy and idiotic because in 6months to a year there will be receipts
I find it ironic that analyzing a player and forming an opinion over time is “lazy and idiotic” as compared to what….assuming every player is an NPC and having no opinions on them at all? In your view of things, NBA teams should actually just draw players out of a hat instead of picking the players they think our good. Any analysis of those players is lazy, idiotic, and fruitless.
Also, it may shock you, but different people have different opinions. Comparing someone like Ferg’s previous opinion to mine is apples to oranges. He was always on him and still is, I was skeptical and still am. Both of our opinions will change over time.
HermanG
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Current tense I dont think thats a revelation.
But if you suggest he wont ever be good, then its definitely undecided. He has things he is already good at, and the biggest issue holding him back is his shot-making which has been atrocious to start the season. If he would even average the same (bad) shooting splits he had last year, he would be averaging 19 PPG and 6.5 APG at this point, and the narrative would be very different.
Eventually he needs to reach something like 45%+ from field and 36%+ from three to become a real starter caliber guard with his skillset... and its fair to doubt that he wont get there but its also fair to believe he may.
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I think its pretty undecided. Two weeks ago the narrative here was that almost every pick we have made looks good.
I think we need to watch 20+ games this season before we start painting any kind of picture.
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I'm not ready to say he won't be good in the future though. I still believe.
He is going to have an efficient 35 point game soon. Book it.
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