Except, if not all emissions have the same effect, changing the chemical form of the emission into a more efficient greenhouse gas (such as methane) can make the eater into a non-zero issuer.
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Except, if not all emissions have the same effect, changing the chemical form of the emission into a more efficient greenhouse gas (such as methane) can make the eater into a non-zero issuer.
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Red
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I doubt it. She is someone who sailed across the ocean to deliver that short address to the United Nations. She's someone who was chomping at the bit, for some time, to deliver the words she spoke. And she did so with passion. From her heart. Not from brainwashing. She was simply passionate, and absolutely disgusted at the climate change denialism culture. And I don't blame her one bit. Sometimes intelligent humans get a wee bit hot at all the ignorance they are forced to confront.
olden_undercover
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So...
1) The earth is warming, but not because of anything humans are doing?
...or is it...
2) The earth is warming, and humans are causing some of it, but not a large enough percentage to cause any lasting damage?
...or is it...
3) The earth is warming, and humans are causing a large enough percentage of it to cause lasting damage, and we shouldn't do anything about it because life is fragile regardless?
...or is it...
4) Conservatives are rational, stable geniuses and liberals are emotional, angry snowflakes, so politics and you're the smartest living thing in rural Utah?
...or is it...
Some combination of 1-3 + 4?
Just trying to understand which of those sums up your dismissive reasoning best.
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jazzrule
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Earth Cooling At The Fastest Rate On Record | Real Climate ...
realclimatescience.com/2017/01/earth-cooling-at...
https://www.investors.com/category/politics/editorials/
Don't Tell Anyone, But We Just Had Two Years Of Record-Breaking Global Cooling
NASA Discovers the Earth is Actually Cooling - NaturalON
naturalon.com/nasa-discovers-the-earth-is...
This means that there was an overall cooling effect that directly contradicts the global warming crowd as well as NASA’s own climatology division. Data collected shows that both carbon dioxide and nitric oxide are “greenhouse” gases that reflect energy, causing heat to return to space, not absorbed into the earth’s atmosphere.
Don't know if the links work, but just type in earth warming the last 10 years One Brow. I know you hate to be wrong. Sorry.
I would dispute the "ignorant" characterization, because he is referencing an actual document signed by his 500, whereas while there are similar documents from the concerned scientists who believe we have an urgent crisis, generally there is not yet one actually signed by your millions. So his point has some merit.
lauriandres
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One Brow, am i correct that according to the law in most of the countries - every person can be hired with the title "scientist"? I.e the scientist term/title is not regulated unlike CEO or doctor (at least in Estonia everybody, who has officialy graduated an university as a doctor for example orthopedist, gets an unique doctor's ID from the government and is put on a special database).
Am i scientist, if a company that belongs to my wife, hires me to research new accounting (she has an one-person accounting company) technologies?
IMHO, at least in my country there seems to be enough persons, who work at some university, claim to be scientist, however, most of the research seems to related to problems which are (loosely translated from estonian language - maybe there is better wording in english) - sucked out from the pen and are getting paid by the taxpayer.
Red
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Why the right's usual smears don't work on Greta Thunberg. She keeps the focus on science, and they hate it:
https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/en...nberg-climate-change-trump-attacks-right-wing
The story of Greta Thunberg:
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/09/greta-thunberg-climate-change-movement.html
https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/en...nberg-climate-change-trump-attacks-right-wing
The story of Greta Thunberg:
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/09/greta-thunberg-climate-change-movement.html
The use of short-term drops to hide long-term increases is an old, tired game. No one is fooled by it except people who want to be.
https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/
Look at the graph at the top right. The five highest values (the dots) are 2014 through 2018. Coming down very slightly from a record high is not global cooling, and it's not a sign of a long-term trend.
Global warming deniers pulled this garbage after the then-record high in 1998, and the data this decade has blown away that temperature. The data in 20 years will be leving our current temperatures in the dust. Meanwhile, your type will still be there in 2039, talking about how it's cooler than 2037, so global warming must not be a thing. Your denial is a disease that will sicken the planet for your children and grandchildren.
There are tens of thousands of papers published in scientific journals supporting teh reality of climate change. Why would there need to be some document for them to sign?