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Stoked said:
Which is where I get into civil unions and marriages. Marriage should be the domain of religions only and be recognized by the government as equal to a civil union.

Civil Unions should be done but the government, instead of marriages. They should grant all the legal rights and privileges that a marriage currently does. Any group of consenting adults, regardless of relation, sexual orientation or any other clarification should be eligible for civil unions.

Now if a homosexual (or even a random group of 3 or more) couple find a recognized religion that will marry them than good for them. They are married.
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I strongly disagree. If you leave governmentally protected constitutions' destiny to the hand of religious biases, the outsiders are ****ed.
 
Mrs. Wells and I both got calls from Grenada about three weeks ago. We both missed them. I tried calling back... like five times.

I didn't get any charges on my last bill; I'll keep you all posted when I get my next one.



p.s. One day in the near future, Colton's kids are going to look back on this thread and wonder how their father could have been such an embarrassing bigot.
 
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E.J. Wells said:
Mrs. Wells and I both got calls from Grenada about three weeks ago. We both missed them. I tried calling back... like five times.

I didn't get any charges on my last bill; I'll keep you all posted when I get my next one.



p.s. One day in the near future, Colton's kids are going to look back on this thread and wonder how their father could have been such an embarrassing bigot.
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trout vs Colton beef incoming
 
addictionary said:
I strongly disagree. If you leave governmentally protected constitutions' destiny to the hand of religious biases, the outsiders are ****ed.
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They are not left in the hand of religion. They are still completely obtainable thru civil unions.
 
addictionary said:
And who will choose which one of those religions and civil unions the government will favor or will not favor? The majority?
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You must have misunderstood me. Under my idea a civil union can be obtained by any group of consenting adults. A civil union would grant the exact same privileges as a marriage. The government just recognizes a marriage (done by a denomination/religion) the same as a civil union.

Under this idea my wife and I would be a civil union.

What rights is either group losing?
 
addictionary said:
The government's blessing is necessary but not for the sake of their power over the constitution of marriage but to protect people's rights in gavibg their own world and building it out of harm's way and to benefit the same rights.
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I understand that. My comment was simply questioning Gameface's statement that families were created and now the AG is trying to dismantle them. I'm sure they considered themselves families before gay marriage was legal and I'm sure they would consider themselves families if gay marriage is rescinded. It's not like the AG is sending in the police to physically dismantle and separate people from each other.
 
Scat said:
I understand that. My comment was simply questioning Gameface's statement that families were created and now the AG is trying to dismantle them. I'm sure they considered themselves families before gay marriage was legal and I'm sure they would consider themselves families if gay marriage is rescinded. It's not like the AG is sending in the police to physically dismantle and separate people from each other.
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Not yet, anyway. Give it time. Colton and his minions of family wreckers will eventually get their way; it's the Utah Way.
 
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