The AB Replacement Options

[Jazz4ever]

Why? Because the Rockets think a player they don't play is worth >$7 million dollars of actual money, or because the Jazz have too much talent again? Is KJ worse than Lillsap?

Because he is an unknown. Will be better than Sap in 3 years? Probably. If the goal is to make the playoffs this season, the Jazz will be looking for an NBA ready player rather than taking on a project.

Hint: they'll probably into their 30s.

 

[Stifle Tower]

Agree... I like DL and jazz management but at some point we need to not worry about shaking the boat and adding some damn talent. Wouldn't it be smarter to take nba talent that isn't being used and develop it... Yet we prefer to scour old d league guys. I don't think it was a bad strategy for us to fill out our roster in years past but I'd rather us aim a little higher now. We can have player movement and still not skip steps ya know.

I agree. But the Burks injury (and Exum, Gobert and Favors being out) gives the Jazz the opportunity to fall out of the 8th seed. Right now, if that were to happen, they would get the 10th pick. If they barely make the playoffs, they'll get the 15th pick. Last year, the draft was 11 players deep and the Jazz got screwed by having the 12th pick.

Yes, if there is a situation where a good, young player is available at the right price, DL should definitely pull the trigger. I liked the thinking behind McDaniels - i.e. he comes cheaper than his talent level to get Houston out of the luxury tax.

IMO, DL needs to find 3 players via trade, draft or free agency: a decent backup for Gobert, a stretch PF (or combo forward) and a good PG to either start over or push Exum, My dream scenario would be to draft Poeltl, sign Conley and then go after a guy like Ryan Anderson. Not saying all those are realistic, but I think players who fit those profiles would fill out the team for next season. The draft is full of good bigs throughout the top-10. Or a run on bigs could push a wing down.

Jazz aren't going anywhere this season. I want a top-10 pick!

 

[NUMBERICA]

Because he is an unknown. Will be better than Sap in 3 years? Probably. If the goal is to make the playoffs this season, the Jazz will be looking for an NBA ready player rather than taking on a project.

Hint: they'll probably into their 30s.

KJ is less of an unknown than Lilsap is, and better today. Also, who do you think will be available for next-to-nothing (what the Jazz will almost certainly be offering) that can help by your criteria?

 

[Siro]

Because he is an unknown. Will be better than Sap in 3 years? Probably. If the goal is to make the playoffs this season, the Jazz will be looking for an NBA ready player rather than taking on a project.

Hint: they'll probably into their 30s.

lol. This is seriously hilariously. Millsap is NOT an NBA ready player (unless you have an awesome vet in mind who can be had for nothing. /rollseyes). He is an end of the bench guy who gets a couple of minutes a game to hurt the team. Unless the Jazz is going for some twisted fouls/minute record, KJ is at no risk of being worse RIGHT NOW, not in three years.

 

[NUMBERICA]

lol. This is seriously hilariously. Millsap is NOT an NBA ready player (unless you have an awesome vet in mind who can be had for nothing. /rollseyes). He is an end of the bench guy who gets a couple of minutes a game to hurt the team. Unless the Jazz is going for some twisted fouls/minute record, KJ is at no risk of being worse RIGHT NOW, not in three years.

Not to mention that the Jazz get to use one of their ONE MILLION sparkling 2nd rounders on anything.

 

[NUMBERICA]

For the record, I'm all about making the playoffs this year, 8th seed or not. I'm not confident that the Jazz will be bad enough to get a sweet slot in the draft. At this point, there's more upside in building a culture upward with the trajectory. But the Jazz are in some trouble if they don't start cobbling together a roster of healthy NBA players.

 

[Park Bites]

Hummmm i cant edit. I mean 55% on 3 attempts per game.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I agree. But the Burks injury (and Exum, Gobert and Favors being out) gives the Jazz the opportunity to fall out of the 8th seed. Right now, if that were to happen, they would get the 10th pick. If they barely make the playoffs, they'll get the 15th pick. Last year, the draft was 11 players deep and the Jazz got screwed by having the 12th pick.

Yes, if there is a situation where a good, young player is available at the right price, DL should definitely pull the trigger. I liked the thinking behind McDaniels - i.e. he comes cheaper than his talent level to get Houston out of the luxury tax.

IMO, DL needs to find 3 players via trade, draft or free agency: a decent backup for Gobert, a stretch PF (or combo forward) and a good PG to either start over or push Exum, My dream scenario would be to draft Poeltl, sign Conley and then go after a guy like Ryan Anderson. Not saying all those are realistic, but I think players who fit those profiles would fill out the team for next season. The draft is full of good bigs throughout the top-10. Or a run on bigs could push a wing down.

Jazz aren't going anywhere this season. I want a top-10 pick!

We need to show progress to hopefully retain our FA Hayward and favors... Making the playoffs is progress. If management continues to "develop" these guys who are low upside and not serviceable I wouldn't want to stick around and wait it out... I bust my *** and you don't do what you conceivably could to help? I would be much more tempted to leave personally. 10 to 15 isn't significant enough to lose progress. This draft seems to have a couple can't miss prospects a few high upside guys and then it flattens out.

 

[Stifle Tower]

We need to show progress to hopefully retain our FA Hayward and favors... Making the playoffs is progress. If management continues to "develop" these guys who are low upside and not serviceable I wouldn't want to stick around and wait it out... I bust my *** and you don't do what you conceivably could to help? I would be much more tempted to leave personally. 10 to 15 isn't significant enough to lose progress. This draft seems to have a couple can't miss prospects a few high upside guys and then it flattens out.

Look at the mocks. There is considerable drop-off from top-10 to 15, just as there was last season. I just don't see the value in wasting assets to get some fill-in, 35-yr old veteran to help us get swept badly by the Warriors. Favors and Hayward know we're making progress. They saw what the team could do even without Exum. Look at the comments after that first GS game when they came pretty damn close to giving the W's their first loss. I think the critical time to make personnel moves is this off-season. That will show the FO is serious about winning and not continuing to pinch pennies.

I'm not saying don't consider trade options now. Upgrades over Millsap, Johnson, Booker, etc. should definitely be explored.

 

[Park Bites]

Reggie bullock
Jimmer fredette
Elliot williams
I like the kj mcdaniels idea a lot

 

[NAOS]

Aminu is on a long (albeit team-friendly) contract. $7.5M/yr thru 18-19. Maybe they want an expiring plus a second-round pick instead? Aminu for Booker + pick? Maybe a long shot, but I'd make the call.

Gary Harris has gotten better this year, and I think he can be a good bench piece. I'm not as high on Wilson Chandler as others, but he'd be nice at the right price. Sheesh, Will Barton has really stepped up this year. I think a deal with Denver can get done. They want picks, and I'm sure they'd rather not have Nelson's contract.

Where's Tyreke Evans's head these days? How connected his he to NO's uncertain future? He as one year left after this year at $11.6M

 

[Miggs]

Aminu is on a long (albeit team-friendly) contract. $7.5M/yr thru 18-19. Maybe they want an expiring plus a second-round pick instead? Aminu for Booker + pick? Maybe a long shot, but I'd make the call.

Gary Harris has gotten better this year, and I think he can be a good bench piece. I'm not as high on Wilson Chandler as others, but he'd be nice at the right price. Sheesh, Will Barton has really stepped up this year. I think a deal with Denver can get done. They want picks, and I'm sure they'd rather not have Nelson's contract.

Where's Tyreke Evans's head these days? How connected his he to NO's uncertain future? He as one year left after this year at $11.6M

Why the **** would the Blazers do that? They just signed him to what is a very reasonable deal considering his production and they like him. For an expiring and a 2nd? Ridiculous.

 

[Miggs]

Aminu is on a long (albeit team-friendly) contract. $7.5M/yr thru 18-19. Maybe they want an expiring plus a second-round pick instead? Aminu for Booker + pick? Maybe a long shot, but I'd make the call.

Gary Harris has gotten better this year, and I think he can be a good bench piece. I'm not as high on Wilson Chandler as others, but he'd be nice at the right price. Sheesh, Will Barton has really stepped up this year. I think a deal with Denver can get done. They want picks, and I'm sure they'd rather not have Nelson's contract.

Where's Tyreke Evans's head these days? How connected his he to NO's uncertain future? He as one year left after this year at $11.6M

Why the **** would the Blazers do that? They just signed him to what is a very reasonable deal considering his production and they like him. For an expiring and a 2nd? Ridiculous.

 

[Doublea]

I think Kevin Martin would be a great pickup. He wouldn't cost much and he adds shooting to this team. He would come off the bench too.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Kevin Martin is ideal as a "replacement" if we're talking what we'll be missing most sans-Alec. But I have to think the Wolves will want more than a token asset or two. Also, what happens when Burks comes back?

I think KJ is worth a look. Could be useful now, and a piece to keep in years to come as well.

 

[Jazz4ever]

lol. This is seriously hilariously. Millsap is NOT an NBA ready player (unless you have an awesome vet in mind who can be had for nothing. /rollseyes). He is an end of the bench guy who gets a couple of minutes a game to hurt the team. Unless the Jazz is going for some twisted fouls/minute record, KJ is at no risk of being worse RIGHT NOW, not in three years.

And how is that? He has an 11 PER shooting 21% from three currently in D league. Oh....he's averaging 4 turnovers as well. Again, in 3 years, probably the better player, but with a 10 million dollar contract doesn't make sense for the Jazz who need immediate help.

 

[Miggs]

I love the McDaniels idea as well.

 

[Boris]

We need to show progress to hopefully retain our FA Hayward and favors... Making the playoffs is progress. If management continues to "develop" these guys who are low upside and not serviceable I wouldn't want to stick around and wait it out... I bust my *** and you don't do what you conceivably could to help? I would be much more tempted to leave personally. 10 to 15 isn't significant enough to lose progress. This draft seems to have a couple can't miss prospects a few high upside guys and then it flattens out.

We need to show Kevin Durrant we are serious about winning a ship. That means either tanking proper or healthy to take GSW to 7 games.

Which you think is most likely? Without attracting KD there is no other free agent available to bring hope back into jazz land.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Look at the mocks. There is considerable drop-off from top-10 to 15, just as there was last season. I just don't see the value in wasting assets to get some fill-in, 35-yr old veteran to help us get swept badly by the Warriors. Favors and Hayward know we're making progress. They saw what the team could do even without Exum. Look at the comments after that first GS game when they came pretty damn close to giving the W's their first loss. I think the critical time to make personnel moves is this off-season. That will show the FO is serious about winning and not continuing to pinch pennies.

I'm not saying don't consider trade options now. Upgrades over Millsap, Johnson, Booker, etc. should definitely be explored.

I don't agree with you on either draft... Has Winslow shown he's better than RHJ... the numbers say otherwise. It's too early to say we know what last year's draft prospects are.

It's playoffs or this season was a failure for me... The organization has said that was not their goal, but I would guess Hay and Favs see the playoffs as progress. I don't want a guy like Martin (I think he is done) I'd like to pluck a guy from another team that hasn't had an opportunity.