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The Best Show on the History of Television

What is the best show on the history of television?

  • The Sopranos

    Votes: 1 2.9%
  • The Wire

    Votes: 3 8.6%
  • Mad Men

    Votes: 1 2.9%
  • Breaking Bad

    Votes: 11 31.4%
  • I Love Lucy

    Votes: 2 5.7%
  • Seinfeld

    Votes: 6 17.1%
  • MASH

    Votes: 3 8.6%
  • The Simpsons

    Votes: 2 5.7%
  • All in the Family

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 6 17.1%

  • Total voters
    35
Of course you would think that. You probably think friends was better than Seinfeld too, right?

Nah Friends is rubbish.


To each his own I guess, I've never really enjoyed Seinfeld's characters/cast all that much. None of them are likeable for me. On the other hand I really like the family dynamics of the Crane family and the awkward romance between Niles & Daphne. Also it's just the type of humour that I enjoy more.


Also according to Wikipedia Frasier have won 37 Emmys, the most received by any series. But I don't care about all that, I just really enjoy the show.
 
"I enjoy Show X more than Show Y because the characters are more likable"

This is just a personal theory, but I think that people who say something like the quote above have poor reading habits. The novel has thoroughly experimented with character (types, development, centrality to the plot, significance of their decisions, etc., etc.), so much so that simply "liking" them is waaaaaay down the list of concerns. In other words, if you have even a decent relationship with literature, then I don't think you judge the effort as a whole based on the mere likability of the characters. Very base.
 
I've been hating TV in an irrational way lately. I'm trying to get back into some kind of viewership by watching the recent season of House of Cards. Big MEH.
 
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"I enjoy Show X more than Show Y because the characters are more likable"

This is just a personal theory, but I think that people who say something like the quote above have poor reading habits. The novel has thoroughly experimented with character (types, development, centrality to the plot, significance of their decisions, etc., etc.), so much so that simply "liking" them is waaaaaay down the list of concerns. In other words, if you have even a decent relationship with literature, then I don't think you judge the effort as a whole based on the mere likability of the characters. Very base.
While I understand your point, I do not typically watch TV comedies for the same reason I read heavy classic novels. I find characters that I like much funnier than characters I don't. I find Jim much funnier than Michael on "The Office," for example. I laughed much more at "Fraser" than "Seinfeld," which is why I regularly watched it while I just caught Seinfeld if it came on while I was watching TV.

BTW, I read 40-50 books per year, and not just light novels. Anyone who knows me knows I don't have poor reading skills.

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While I understand your point, I do not typically watch TV comedies for the same reason I read heavy classic novels. I find characters that I like much funnier than characters I don't. I find Jim much funnier than Michael on "The Office," for example. I laughed much more at "Fraser" than "Seinfeld," which is why I regularly watched it while I just caught Seinfeld if it came on while I was watching TV.

BTW, I read 40-50 books per year, and not just light novels. Anyone who knows me knows I don't have poor reading skills.

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fair enough. This isn't an important theory, obvi. I don't personally share your relationship between likability and humor though.
 
fair enough. This isn't an important theory, obvi. I don't personally share your relationship between likability and humor though.
And thankfully we don't all like the same things and have the same tastes. Although if we did I wouldn't have to pay so much for the few TV shows I watch. I miss the days of three channels.

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What? Your life is like a movie? Too bad it isn't always a comedy. How terrifying.

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Trust me, there's nothing funny about figuring out people have broken into your house looking for your banking information and you have to move now.


Holy **** dude! Has it blown over yet, i.e. is he locked up or deceased?

There is some evidence that he's deceased, but the thing about people with fake identities is that it's very difficult to prove that they are definitively dead. Particularly when foreign entities are involved. I will basically never know. And I cringe every time someone rings the bell at my office. And it's going to be that way for years.

It is also shockingly hard to get local authorities to prosecute crimes that are even remotely complex. I literally handed the local police and the FBI hundreds of pages of documents, that I personally indexed and summarized, and submitted to several interviews. That included written death threats and handwriting samples and the whole deal. No charges. Too difficult to prosecute/too many man hours required.

Random aside: This experience more than any other really destroyed my faith in law enforcement. It also really changed my opinions on the Clintons. This whole thing happened to me, at least in part, because Bill Clinton pardoned a bunch of people that REALLY should not have been pardoned right when he left office. The guy who threatened to kill me was involved in this scheme: https://content.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,99807,00.html

Having dealt with these people, and having read the House report on exactly what they did, it is unconscionable that Bill Clinton pardoned them. So yeah, I'm ****ing voting for Bernie Sanders and do not envision voting for Hillary in the general.

Frasier was better than Seinfeld IMO ...

It certainly had higher aspirations.

Is this the explanation for the weird FB name? :)

Yes. I'm not taking a lot of chances. It's also why all my state bar communications go to a PO Box in a city I don't live in and I have special court permission to seal up most of my court filings. There are unfortunately a handful of public documents that have my name and work address on them that I can't do anything about. But until it's confirmed that this guy is dead I have to be pretty vigilant.
 
This strengthens my resolve to caucus for Bernie tonight. I'm so sorry you have to go through all this. Horrifying.

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