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Bucknutz said:
Unity, issues, genuine, knowledgeable, articulate which are lacking in the other major candidates, yet RFK has these qualities.


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But But But anti-vax and he is independent. Oh and his voice.

We have a better option.
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In America it is the independent thing that kills it. The vast majority vote for the R or D by the name. Anything different and they have to actually *gasp* think. And understand. And many don't want to do the former and even more are incapable of the latter. I wish we had a viable 3rd party, and 4th and 5th. But hell, let's start with just adding a 3rd viable party. Things would improve drastically within the first few voting cycles. But unfortunately right now, we don't. So we are stuck with R or D and then maybe someone else if I am a fringe thinker and want to vote my conscience rather than decide the fate of the free world (at least in this election). So I am glad you are voting for RFK. I hope a full 1/3 of registered republicans do the same. Just as long as we get Trump off the big stage finally.

Oh and the anti-vax thing is nearly a non-starter for me. Get real. We cannot have a conspiracy theorist in a position of power like that. Most of our politicians are out of touch enough as it is. Don't need to rock the crazy boat any more than we absolutely have to.
 
Bucknutz said:
Unity, issues, genuine, knowledgeable, articulate which are lacking in the other major candidates, yet RFK has these qualities.


View: https://x.com/endtribalism/status/1818416063677391149?s=46&t=BMMZjW7vq0_zwnmLDjNTgQ


But But But anti-vax and he is independent. Oh and his voice.

We have a better option.
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Get rid of the electoral college and 3rd party candidates may have a chance some day.

As it stands 18 million Americans voted 3rd party in an election one time. That resulted in a grand total of ZERO electoral votes. Those 18 million votes didn't count.

Actually I was a little low on the number.
On Election Day, Perot finished in third place behind Clinton (the winner) and Bush. Perot received 19,743,821 votes, the most ever received by a non-major-party candidate, which accounted for 18.91% of the popular vote. He garnered ZERO electoral votes

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fishonjazz said:
Get rid of the electoral college and 3rd party candidates may have a chance some day.

As it stands 18 million Americans voted 3rd party in an election one time. That resulted in a grand total of ZERO electoral votes. Those 18 million votes didn't count.

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Oh they swayed the electoral college, by taking votes away from candidate #2, essentially handing the election to the candidate that won, with like 40% of the total vote. It was ridiculous. Perot took nearly 20% of the vote and that would very likely have propelled Bush to the presidency. So they mattered. But not the way they should have mattered. And he actually got nearly 20 million votes.
 
I still think we could shake things up if we make the winner be the president and the loser be the vice president. Unless the loser is the incumbent. But I would also like to change the presidency to a single 6-year term and no chance for re-election. They serve once, for 6 years, and they are just done.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Oh they swayed the electoral college, by taking votes away from candidate #2, essentially handing the election to the candidate that won, with like 40% of the total vote. It was ridiculous. Perot took nearly 20% of the vote and that would very likely have propelled Bush to the presidency. So they mattered. But not the way they should have mattered. And he actually got nearly 20 million votes.
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This made me curious about Theodore Roosevelt and the Bull Moose party so I looked at old Teddy's wiki and holy ****! Man had a life, saw some things, did some stuff, ****ed around, found out, and ****ed around some more.

His Bull Moose party accomplished exactly the same thing as Perot did, they got the "other side" elected.
 
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Some Republicans Embrace Conspiracy Theories on Trump Assassination

WASHINGTON — Rep. Eli Crane, R-Ariz. and a former Navy SEAL, says he is no conspiracy theorist. But in the weeks since the attempted assassination of Donald Trump, he has made the baseless suggestion that the shooting was part of a coordinated campaign by Democrats or shadowy government actors...
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Rep. Eli Crane, R-Ariz. and a former Navy SEAL, says he is no conspiracy theorist. But in the weeks since the attempted assassination of Donald Trump, he has made the baseless suggestion that the shooting was part of a coordinated campaign by Democrats or shadowy government actors to try to stop the former president from reclaiming the White House.

No evidence has emerged that anyone other than a lone gunman, Thomas Crooks, tried to kill Trump. Crooks, 20, was a registered Republican who was killed at the scene and left few clues about his beliefs or what motivated him to open fire at a Trump rally July 13.

But in the telling of Crane and several of his right-wing Republican colleagues in Congress, as well as GOP candidates seeking election this fall, there is far more to the story. They are trafficking in dangerous conspiracy theories that insinuate that Democrats and government forces played a role in trying to take out Trump.

It is the latest example of how elected Republicans have promoted groundless claims that suit their political narrative, drawing unsubstantiated theories and grievance-driven suspicions once relegated to the right-wing fringe into the mainstream of their party — and suffering no criticism from leaders for spreading them. The effort is similar to the GOP’s bid to deny, sanitize or excuse the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol by a mob of Trump supporters.

“Time and time again, we’ve observed a disturbing feedback loop between lawmakers and online conspiracies,” said Nina Jankowicz, a disinformation expert. “Our elected officials should be holding themselves to a higher standard, sharing verified information, not dealing in speculation that could inflame and endanger more Americans.”

Two days after the shooting, Tim Sheehy, the GOP front-runner in the race to challenge Sen. Jon Tester, D-Mont., told supporters at a meet-and-greet with constituents that Trump’s political rivals were to blame.

“They’ve been trying to put him in jail and done everything they can to stop somebody who represents our best interests,” Sheehy said. “And it culminated in them trying to kill him.”

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fishonjazz said:
www.yahoo.com

Some Republicans Embrace Conspiracy Theories on Trump Assassination

WASHINGTON — Rep. Eli Crane, R-Ariz. and a former Navy SEAL, says he is no conspiracy theorist. But in the weeks since the attempted assassination of Donald Trump, he has made the baseless suggestion that the shooting was part of a coordinated campaign by Democrats or shadowy government actors...
www.yahoo.com www.yahoo.com

Rep. Eli Crane, R-Ariz. and a former Navy SEAL, says he is no conspiracy theorist. But in the weeks since the attempted assassination of Donald Trump, he has made the baseless suggestion that the shooting was part of a coordinated campaign by Democrats or shadowy government actors to try to stop the former president from reclaiming the White House.

No evidence has emerged that anyone other than a lone gunman, Thomas Crooks, tried to kill Trump. Crooks, 20, was a registered Republican who was killed at the scene and left few clues about his beliefs or what motivated him to open fire at a Trump rally July 13.

But in the telling of Crane and several of his right-wing Republican colleagues in Congress, as well as GOP candidates seeking election this fall, there is far more to the story. They are trafficking in dangerous conspiracy theories that insinuate that Democrats and government forces played a role in trying to take out Trump.

It is the latest example of how elected Republicans have promoted groundless claims that suit their political narrative, drawing unsubstantiated theories and grievance-driven suspicions once relegated to the right-wing fringe into the mainstream of their party — and suffering no criticism from leaders for spreading them. The effort is similar to the GOP’s bid to deny, sanitize or excuse the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol by a mob of Trump supporters.

“Time and time again, we’ve observed a disturbing feedback loop between lawmakers and online conspiracies,” said Nina Jankowicz, a disinformation expert. “Our elected officials should be holding themselves to a higher standard, sharing verified information, not dealing in speculation that could inflame and endanger more Americans.”

Two days after the shooting, Tim Sheehy, the GOP front-runner in the race to challenge Sen. Jon Tester, D-Mont., told supporters at a meet-and-greet with constituents that Trump’s political rivals were to blame.

“They’ve been trying to put him in jail and done everything they can to stop somebody who represents our best interests,” Sheehy said. “And it culminated in them trying to kill him.”

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Was always going to happen
 
Its crazy how much better the 4 years of Biden were for the US than the previous with Trump. Both only served 1 term but 1 will go down as one of the better modern presidents who got a lot done even with the mess that was left to him. The other is Trump who will go down as one of the least successfull and worst presidents of all time.

Great news is that its well known that Harris was helping Biden with every major decision and by his side. So we know we are getting the best part of a great 4 years.
 
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fishonjazz said:
www.yahoo.com

Critics Stunned By Donald Trump’s ‘Heartless’ Punch Line About Man Killed At His Rally

The Republican nominee was slammed as horrible, unkind and a “self-centered sadistic monster” over the line.
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Trump thinks it's amazing that a wife would rather have her husband back instead of a million dollars.
Probably because he knows Melania would choose the money

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Eh, Melania stands to inherit way more than that, so she would happily have a dead Donald. She was probably the most disappointed person in America that the shooter missed.
 
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fishonjazz said:
www.yahoo.com

Some Republicans Embrace Conspiracy Theories on Trump Assassination

WASHINGTON — Rep. Eli Crane, R-Ariz. and a former Navy SEAL, says he is no conspiracy theorist. But in the weeks since the attempted assassination of Donald Trump, he has made the baseless suggestion that the shooting was part of a coordinated campaign by Democrats or shadowy government actors...
www.yahoo.com www.yahoo.com

Rep. Eli Crane, R-Ariz. and a former Navy SEAL, says he is no conspiracy theorist. But in the weeks since the attempted assassination of Donald Trump, he has made the baseless suggestion that the shooting was part of a coordinated campaign by Democrats or shadowy government actors to try to stop the former president from reclaiming the White House.

No evidence has emerged that anyone other than a lone gunman, Thomas Crooks, tried to kill Trump. Crooks, 20, was a registered Republican who was killed at the scene and left few clues about his beliefs or what motivated him to open fire at a Trump rally July 13.

But in the telling of Crane and several of his right-wing Republican colleagues in Congress, as well as GOP candidates seeking election this fall, there is far more to the story. They are trafficking in dangerous conspiracy theories that insinuate that Democrats and government forces played a role in trying to take out Trump.

It is the latest example of how elected Republicans have promoted groundless claims that suit their political narrative, drawing unsubstantiated theories and grievance-driven suspicions once relegated to the right-wing fringe into the mainstream of their party — and suffering no criticism from leaders for spreading them. The effort is similar to the GOP’s bid to deny, sanitize or excuse the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol by a mob of Trump supporters.

“Time and time again, we’ve observed a disturbing feedback loop between lawmakers and online conspiracies,” said Nina Jankowicz, a disinformation expert. “Our elected officials should be holding themselves to a higher standard, sharing verified information, not dealing in speculation that could inflame and endanger more Americans.”

Two days after the shooting, Tim Sheehy, the GOP front-runner in the race to challenge Sen. Jon Tester, D-Mont., told supporters at a meet-and-greet with constituents that Trump’s political rivals were to blame.

“They’ve been trying to put him in jail and done everything they can to stop somebody who represents our best interests,” Sheehy said. “And it culminated in them trying to kill him.”

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They all watched Donald lie about literally everything and use it to propel himself to the presidency. They learned. They are now playing around with flat out lying to get themselves ahead, the way their Orange Jesus did it before them. Be thee therefore corrupt, as your father, the Donald, is corrupt, and ye shall be rewarded.
 
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