The Biden Administration and All Things Politics
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Bucknutz
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This is incorrect. My reasons against Harris is that she was chosen for you. There are better options for the Democrats which has more experience, more depth of knowledge and has more charisma. But it seems like very few people here recognize my opinion correctly.
It’s fine that you feel that RFK is a terrible option, that’s your opinion. At least there is another option than Harris and Trump.
He can say whatever he wants but his actions have spoken much louder. Obviously he is trying to change his tone to attract more voters. He is directly responsible for spreading false information that lead to a measles breakout in Samoa that killed many people. This one of many incidents from him.
As far as your other statement that's fine you can change why you don't like Harris. But this is your direct quote "I don’t like her because she has no accomplishments, limited experience."
She hasn't been chosen yet but she is overwhelmingly the favorite and extremely well supported. She set a record for funds raised. She is the most supported and liked candidate by far.
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Red
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Yeah, at one time he put out an ad calling for the execution of innocent blacks and Latinos. Done more for blacks since Lincoln. “I am the least racist person….” Uh huh.
Donald Trump and the Central Park Five: the racially charged rise of a demagogue
In 1989 five black and Latino boys were wrongfully convicted of raping a woman jogging in New York City. Leading the charge against them was a real estate mogul whose divisive rhetoric can be found in his presidential campaign today
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Yusef Salaam was 15 years old when Donald Trump demanded his execution for a crime he did not commit.
Nearly three decades before the rambunctious billionaire began his run for president – before he called for a ban on Muslims entering the United States, for the expulsion of all undocumented migrants, before he branded Mexicans as “rapists” and was accused of mocking the disabled – Trump called for the reinstatement of the death penalty in New York following a horrific rape case in which five teenagers were wrongly convicted.
The miscarriage of justice is widely remembered as a definitive moment in New York’s fractured race relations. But Trump’s intervention – he signed full-page newspaper advertisements implicitly calling for the boys to die – has been gradually overlooked as his chances of winning the Republican nomination have rapidly increased. Now those involved in the case of the so-called Central Park Five and its aftermath say Trump’s rhetoric served as an unlikely precursor to a unique brand of divisive populism that has powered his rise to political prominence in 2016.
“He was the firestarter,” Salaam said of Trump, in his first extended interview since Trump announced his run for the White House. “Common citizens were being manipulated and swayed into believing that we were guilty.”
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Bucknutz
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She doesn’t have any accomplishments and she is limited, again to OTHER DEMOCRAT OPTIONS. You keep leaving this out.
If she hasn’t been chosen for you, what other Democrat option can you vote for in the primary? I got to vote in the primary, but my choice didn’t win.
Business - Karen Lynch
Democrat - Maura Healey is the closest, yet she is still inexperienced as a governor
Republican - None - closest would be Sarah Sanders, still not there yet, in my opinion
Again, I look for governing as my top priority. If it’s in business or government. You say RFK is inexperienced, yet he has owned and ran many successful businesses.
I completely disagree and have pointed out her accomplishments many times.
Like it or not all candidates are chosen by their parties to represent their parties.
Thanks for answering. I can see you find almost no women experienced enough.
If the business is so important than the last 4 years are great for you. The economy is booming and industry is better than ever, which is a huge accomplishment when almost every other country in the world is on a big down swing. Harris was a huge part of that decision making. Every major decision with Biden she was apart of.
Bucknutz
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Are you saying primaries dont count and parties are the ones that choose the candidate?
2024 Democratic Party presidential primaries - Wikipedia
Bucknutz
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For President? No.
Hillary was the most experienced but she didn’t win.
I’ll throw the question right back at you, what business woman, republican woman and democrat woman would be a great leader a president of the USA?
What decisions did Biden make that affected the economy? To make it this great? This is a generic with no substance. Are you saying it’s Kamala who raised the interest rates now making housing unaffordable? Or was it letting in millions of people who took away low cost housing? Are those interest rates hurting people in debt, in the form of credit cards? Are credit card default rates, the highest in 12 years and climbing, a Kamala decision? What about a 13 year high in auto loan delinquencies? That was her? What about the highest amount of Americans working 2 jobs to just afford life? Was that caused by her decisions.
What about this recent news?
US hiring fell sharply in July, an unexpected setback for the economy stoking recession fears
The U.S. economy suffered an unexpected setback in July, as hiring fell sharply and the unemployment rate rose for the fourth straight month in a sign that higher interest rates may be taking a bigger toll on businesses and consumers.
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“The unemployment rate has risen for four consecutive months. It’s jump to 4.3% in July crossed a tripwire that historically has signaled that the United States is in recession”
This is Kamala?
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This is actually a fact. Delegates and super delegates pick the presidential nominee.
Now having said that, they will almost always go with who the voters voted for. But it's never "X" candidate got this many primary votes which was more than the others so that is the nominee.
If fact before 1972 (I believe that was the year) delegates often went against the voters and chose a nominee who didn't get the votes.
I'm glad that you would like to see us be more democratic though and let the voters decide. I would too. I think we should not even have delegates or electors. I think we should vote and tally them sum bitches up and have the winner decided that way.
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I’ll throw the question right back at you, what business woman, republican woman and democrat woman would be a great leader a president of the USA?
What decisions did Biden make that affected the economy? To make it this great? This is a generic with no substance. Are you saying it’s Kamala who raised the interest rates now making housing unaffordable? Or was it letting in millions of people who took away low cost housing? Are those interest rates hurting people in debt, in the form of credit cards? Are credit card default rates, the highest in 12 years and climbing, a Kamala decision? What about a 13 year high in auto loan delinquencies? That was her? What about the highest amount of Americans working 2 jobs to just afford life? Was that caused by her decisions.
What about this recent news?
US hiring fell sharply in July, an unexpected setback for the economy stoking recession fears
The U.S. economy suffered an unexpected setback in July, as hiring fell sharply and the unemployment rate rose for the fourth straight month in a sign that higher interest rates may be taking a bigger toll on businesses and consumers.
“The unemployment rate has risen for four consecutive months. It’s jump to 4.3% in July crossed a tripwire that historically has signaled that the United States is in recession”
This is Kamala?
I dont really want a business person, man or women, who ran a corporation to be president. I think they tend to be awful people and not looking out for the best interest of the citizens. Those are more likely to be corrupt and will only help grow large corporations that dont benefit people. That is one of the bigger problems in the US.
Or do you just mean a women in general that would be good for president? I think there are plenty of those. I dont find them qualified regardless of gender to be fit for president. But I can see the differences between you and me. You want large corporations controlling more. If you want a list of top CEOs who are female and successful you can google that. It seems you respect them less than men who are CEOs though. Probably one of the reasons we have a lower percentage of female CEOs than most countries even China has more percentage wise.
I wrote out a bunch about the economy but deleted it because I realized it has nothing to do with what we are discussing now.
But I will agree to some extent the president doesnt have a ton of control over the economy and I dont vote for president based on business like you. For me government should be mostly hands off except for protecting the rights of minority groups, build/maintain infrastructure, protect its people, and keep large corporations in check. These are areas I feel improved under Biden and will continue to improve under Harris.
Our voting system needs reform. I doubt it will happen and its sad. Look at the voter turnout in the USA its really awful. How many other countries dont give everyone the day off to vote? Its crazy. Unless you live in a swing state its a waste of time to vote. The general election is bad but the primaries are even more awful.
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Al-O-Meter
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You have cause and effect backwards. Kamala isn't the candidate because she is the most supported and liked. Kamala is the most supported and liked because she is the candidate.
Prior to being named as the top of the democratic ticket, Kamala wasn't among the top three in voter support. She was installed. People were told to cheer and so they cheer. Kamala doesn't need to campaign, or do interviews, or even have policy positions because she isn't competing for a thing that needs to be won. Kamala simply needs to kill time until it happens.
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For Democrats, stopping Trump from returning to the Oval Office is the most important priority, and they are likely looking at it as the most critically important election in modern times, perhaps in all of American history. That does seem a tad different than just another presidential election. Of course Trump is telling his followers the very same thing. Once Biden endorsed Harris, Democrats seemed to realize being unified, with 4 months to go, was the best path. Was Harris the best candidate? Well, Obama wanted a mini primary and open convention. I think the Democrats were in a really tough spot, not expecting to have to replace Biden, prior to the debate. To Democrats, at least, there has never(?) been an election quite like this: we MUST win, Trump is an existential threat to our democratic institutions. And not a lot of time to create a ticket that will accomplish what they feel is the only thing that matters: stop Trump. If it works, that is all that matters.