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The Thriller said:
Another day another Al trolljob. Yawn
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It's sad because there was a brief period where I thought there might be another reasonable person that had several opinions contrary to my own and that I would be able to learn from them and also learn more about my own position on things. That has not been the case.
 
I just want to throw something out there that maybe one or two will maybe take to heart.

I promise you that you’d be a lot happier if you stopped being so invested in politics and letting politics consume your entire life.
 
Gameface said:
It's sad because there was a brief period where I thought there might be another reasonable person that had several opinions contrary to my own and that I would be able to learn from them and also learn more about my own position on things. That has not been the case.
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Elizah Huge said:
I promise you that you’d be a lot happier if you stopped being so invested in politics and letting politics consume your entire life.
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Who watches the watchmen? I don't know about "happier", but I am truer to my authentic self if I at least keep an eye on political issues.
 
The Thriller said:
I actually agree with Fox News and Repubs this time. The DOJ and Dems need to get stronger on crime and lock MAGA up. We should start with Trump tonight. Time to break up that crime family and bring to Justice those who organized and incited Jan 6.


View: https://twitter.com/davidbadash/status/1586036061649924096?s=46&t=FtIPL8TAxHiuxK-SWiE43A
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Look at what you made us do!

They incite their viewers to commit violence and then say “democrats need to do more to prevent these violent crimes.” It’s really a genius plan if you think about it.


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Elizah Huge said:
I just want to throw something out there that maybe one or two will maybe take to heart.

I promise you that you’d be a lot happier if you stopped being so invested in politics and letting politics consume your entire life.
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Bad take. Many don't have the luxury of "not being invested in politics". The fundamental well-being of society and us as individuals is dictated by politics. Those who are less fortunate and cannot afford to ignore our governance could benefit from your advocacy. Blissful unawareness is not the same as happiness.
 
Safetydan said:
Bad take. Many don't have the luxury of "not being invested in politics". The fundamental well-being of society and us as individuals is dictated by politics. Those who are less fortunate and cannot afford to ignore our governance could benefit from your advocacy. Blissful unawareness is not the same as happiness.
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Well, it is for certain segments of the population. It isn't apples to apples, it is apples to gold-foiled fruit of paradise in some cases.
 
Saw this and found it interesting:
When talking about oil production, one thing that seems to be universally ignored is refinery capacity. There has not been a new refinery built in the US in 50 years. Even if you doubled the US oil production, there is still not enough capacity to refine it. Refineries have been closed over the last several years and the remaining 35 or so run at near capacity. It is extremely expensive to build and maintain one and the producers aren't inclined to invest in something they see as a declining industry over the coming decades as renewables become more prevalent. The world will always need oil, just not near as much down the road. In the meantime, they'll soak us for all it's worth. BTW, the US is the worlds largest oil producer and it's largest consumer.

In the comments section of this article about the causes of the current inflation: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/w...cy-mistake-in-years-11667318263?siteid=yhoof2
 
More details of Government colluding with private business. We had a conversation a couple weeks back about Covid censorship, these leaks look like it went a bit further than just Covid.


View: https://twitter.com/aclu/status/1587198479608303622?s=46&t=0Co95voXgpbWyL8Clp64rQ

“the department plans to target “inaccurate information” on a wide range of topics, including “the origins of the COVID-19 pandemic and the efficacy of COVID-19 vaccines, racial justice, U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan, and the nature of U.S. support to Ukraine.”
 
Family values and a clear plan for economic recovery incoming...
 
Gameface said:
Family values and a clear plan for economic recovery incoming...
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Just…… wow. Whole lot of crazy in there.
My favorite was kari lake saying that any actor who gets cancelled is now her favorite actor.
Exactly as i have been saying. Want the right to love you? Say something stupid and act like an *** hole, get called out for it and boom, you are the rights newest hero. Bunch of simpletons.

These days the more corrupt and scummy you are the better chance you have of getting republicans to vote for you. Its a beneficial character trait to be a douchebag in the republican party.


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fishonjazz said:
Just…… wow. Whole lot of crazy in there.
My favorite was kari lake saying that any actor who gets cancelled is now her favorite actor.
Exactly as i have been saying. Want the right to love you? Say something stupid and act like an *** hole, get called out for it and boom, you are the rights newest hero. Bunch of simpletons.

These days the more corrupt and scummy you are the better chance you have of getting republicans to vote for you. Its a beneficial character trait to be a douchebag in the republican party.


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Hmmm...Maybe I should run for office then.
 
Bucknutz said:
More details of Government colluding with private business. We had a conversation a couple weeks back about Covid censorship, these leaks look like it went a bit further than just Covid.
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What I've gotten out of the article so far:
1) The US government is identifying mis/dis/malinformation for social media platforms.
2) The platforms themselves decide to what to remove, label, etc.
3) There are no criminal or civil penalties, nor any other coercion I have seen mentioned.
4) The government wants to handle the process more efficiently and effectively.

Did I misunderstand something?
 
One Brow said:
What I've gotten out of the article so far:
1) The US government is identifying mis/dis/malinformation for social media platforms.
2) The platforms themselves decide to what to remove, label, etc.
3) There are no criminal or civil penalties, nor any other coercion I have seen mentioned.
4) The government wants to handle the process more efficiently and effectively.

Did I misunderstand something?
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Ya you missed something. The government is evil!!!! And you didnt make the molehill into a mountain!


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One Brow said:
What I've gotten out of the article so far:
1) The US government is identifying mis/dis/malinformation for social media platforms.
2) The platforms themselves decide to what to remove, label, etc.
3) There are no criminal or civil penalties, nor any other coercion I have seen mentioned.
4) The government wants to handle the process more efficiently and effectively.

Did I misunderstand something?
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But they are openly callings lies lies! Based on actual information!!!

That is sooooo biased against the MAGA-verse
 
One Brow said:
What I've gotten out of the article so far:
1) The US government is identifying mis/dis/malinformation for social media platforms.
2) The platforms themselves decide to what to remove, label, etc.
3) There are no criminal or civil penalties, nor any other coercion I have seen mentioned.
4) The government wants to handle the process more efficiently and effectively.

Did I misunderstand something?
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Yes, my point.

This is about government working with private business to control speech.

I completely fine with private platforms "deciding what to remove, label etc." The issue I have is the government having a part of that discussion. Why should the government be involved to "handle the process more efficiently and effectively" in a private business?

Let's take a look at a couple of the samples presented in the article. Im going to include Gameface and Fish in this conversation as well since they responded to my post.

Covid Origins

There are two hypothesizes
1. Wuhan wet market / Natural - https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/26/health/wuhan-market-covid-19/index.html
2. Wuhan Lab / Man Made - https://nypost.com/2022/10/29/new-report-supports-claim-covid-19-came-from-wuhan-lab/

Even today, still the two hypothesizes exist and both are plausible. They still do not have a definitive origin. The DNI explained this. I added the DNI.gov declassified assessment of Covid origins to this post.

Yet one of these Origins were considered conspiracy theories and misinformation:

Science | AAAS

www.science.org www.science.org

WHO media briefing from Wuhan on COVID-19 mission - 9 February 2021

WHO media briefing from Wuhan on COVID-19 mission, 9 February 2021
www.who.int www.who.int


Even in this forum posters who disagreed with the post shot down the Man Made theory:

One Brow -
Except, the virus is not manufactured and shows no signs of being manufactured.

Than again, you think Mercola is credible.

Gameface -

This "speculation" is not new. There were completely unfounded conspiracy theories just like this literally seconds after there was news of this outbreak.


Both of you shot down the man mad hypothesis even though you both can not, even today prove where the origin was. No one can. Both of you were on the governments and media's side on this subject.

What I don't like is the government promoting their "truth"(Natural) and shutting down conversation what they feel is "misinformation" (Man Made) and working with social media to do this.

Vaccine efficacy

I have posted on this topic before and included a video that shows the government, including the President, that claims you can not spreed Covid if you are vaccinated.

nymag.com

CDC Data Suggests Vaccinated Don’t Carry, Can’t Spread Virus

Some public-health experts have pushed back on the CDC director’s claim that “vaccinated people do not carry the virus” and “don’t get sick.”
nymag.com nymag.com


View: https://youtu.be/nTlxpxdH3Yk


If someone claimed otherwise, this was misinformation. Except the governments "truth" was misinformation. Once again, I don't like how the government was working with social media to "throttle or suppress" through a special Facebook portal, on what they consider misinformation.

I like my governor, even though I don't like his overreaching law "Stop Woke Act". The judge in the case mentioned in my original posts link had a great line which I agree with:

“Florida’s legislators may well find plaintiffs’ speech ‘repugnant.’ But under our constitutional scheme, the ‘remedy’ for repugnant speech is more speech, not enforced silence,”

The governments job is not to silence speech. Keep the Government out of social media and our speech.

If Trump did this and silenced speech on Stormy, or taxes or anything else you all would be screaming from the roof how this goes against our 1st amendment rights. I just don't want to go down that path at all.
 

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