The Forgotten Man
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Boondocksaint27
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The "pregnant" woman on the front row is going to give me night terrors.
somehow, this reminds me of the brouhaha over a painting done about 25 years ago of Harold Washington, Chicago's first African-American mayor, that depicted him wearing women's underwear.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_of_the_Art_Institute_of_Chicago#Mirth_.26_Girth
I'd typically had a pretty positive opinion of the ACLU until they took on this case. And while I may disagree with him, I'd take McNaughton over the artist who did the Washington portrait any day...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_of_the_Art_Institute_of_Chicago#Mirth_.26_Girth
I'd typically had a pretty positive opinion of the ACLU until they took on this case. And while I may disagree with him, I'd take McNaughton over the artist who did the Washington portrait any day...
unluckyseventeen
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OK, I had to stop watching when he said "this man is a representation of every American" and the guy is all depressed.
Seriously? Living in the US must be so bad. You pay taxes lower than most civilized countries. You have clean water, cheap electricity, cheap (and good) food, and all you have to do to make a respectable living is go out and be willing to work 40 hours per week, even at a relatively crappy job with more than one income in the household.
Jeez, what a rough life.
Anybody that complains about America being a bad place to live really needs to get the **** out, not whine about how bad it is to live here, and how bad their government is. It's pretty damn good as it is. Go live in a third world country where clean water, shelter and plentiful amounts of healthy food are scarce.. then start complaining.
This guy is a complete *******.
Seriously? Living in the US must be so bad. You pay taxes lower than most civilized countries. You have clean water, cheap electricity, cheap (and good) food, and all you have to do to make a respectable living is go out and be willing to work 40 hours per week, even at a relatively crappy job with more than one income in the household.
Jeez, what a rough life.
Anybody that complains about America being a bad place to live really needs to get the **** out, not whine about how bad it is to live here, and how bad their government is. It's pretty damn good as it is. Go live in a third world country where clean water, shelter and plentiful amounts of healthy food are scarce.. then start complaining.
This guy is a complete *******.
Why would that change your opinion of the ACLU? That seems right in their wheelhouse. Do you think he shouldn't have had the right to paint the picture?
I personally would have taken that case.
The Madame and I have both been summer interns for the ACLU back in our college/law school days. I think it would be hard to find attorneys that are more in the Atticus Finch mold. Many of them have made large personal financial sacrifices for that job.
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I have a few questions....
#1 What's the American Dream? Is it paying higher taxes so that 1% of the population can have lower taxes and they can "create jobs" for the rest of us lemmings? Is it paying thousands of dollars for crappy health insurance? Is it getting hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt to pay for schooling? Is it working 60 hours a week for pennies? Is it kicking Iraq's *** and paying trillions of dollars for it? Perhaps the 19th century didn't have some of the "big government" that we have today. But I doubt this guy would have enjoyed living back then. In fact, he'd probably be painting a picture in favor of government.
Were Americans more "happy" 100 years ago? Doubt it... Back then they were ripping the government for doing too little.
So what is the American Dream anyway?
#2 I get so tired of these morons acting like they KNOW EXACTLY what the Founding Fathers would have done in the 20th and 21st centuries basing everything upon a piece of paper. In fact, less than 100 years after the piece of paper was written, Thomas Jefferson who had adamantly opposed big government and a powerful white house pulled a 180 with the Louisiana Purchase. I guess if it benefits the country then it's ok. Likewise, I believe the Founding Fathers would find programs and reforms today that would violate the Constitution yet would greatly benefit the country.
#3 People act as if the USA is the only country with decent living conditions while everyone else is in a cave. In reality, many other countries offer great standards of living, jobs, opportunity, sights, programs, etc. We love to rip on western Europe. While they laugh at us because we pay out of our asses for health care and college, two of the biggest stresses(not to mention costs) one will ever have in their lifetimes here.
So again, another pissed off lemming. Especially hilarious acting as if Satan is the one creating big government. As if having too little government allowing businesses to do whatever is somehow Christlike? Sweatshops, women's oppression, slavery, and all those days when government stayed out of the way remind me so much of Charity, Christ, and Heaven. That's basically what heaven is going to be, a sweatshop. While hell is a socialist paradise.
Pass over some more foxnews kool-aid. Debt, big government, freedom, constitution, blllaaaahhhh USA! Muslims suck! ACLU DUMB! Don't Tread on me! Guns! Europe gay! Free market rule!
#1 What's the American Dream? Is it paying higher taxes so that 1% of the population can have lower taxes and they can "create jobs" for the rest of us lemmings? Is it paying thousands of dollars for crappy health insurance? Is it getting hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt to pay for schooling? Is it working 60 hours a week for pennies? Is it kicking Iraq's *** and paying trillions of dollars for it? Perhaps the 19th century didn't have some of the "big government" that we have today. But I doubt this guy would have enjoyed living back then. In fact, he'd probably be painting a picture in favor of government.
Were Americans more "happy" 100 years ago? Doubt it... Back then they were ripping the government for doing too little.
So what is the American Dream anyway?
#2 I get so tired of these morons acting like they KNOW EXACTLY what the Founding Fathers would have done in the 20th and 21st centuries basing everything upon a piece of paper. In fact, less than 100 years after the piece of paper was written, Thomas Jefferson who had adamantly opposed big government and a powerful white house pulled a 180 with the Louisiana Purchase. I guess if it benefits the country then it's ok. Likewise, I believe the Founding Fathers would find programs and reforms today that would violate the Constitution yet would greatly benefit the country.
#3 People act as if the USA is the only country with decent living conditions while everyone else is in a cave. In reality, many other countries offer great standards of living, jobs, opportunity, sights, programs, etc. We love to rip on western Europe. While they laugh at us because we pay out of our asses for health care and college, two of the biggest stresses(not to mention costs) one will ever have in their lifetimes here.
So again, another pissed off lemming. Especially hilarious acting as if Satan is the one creating big government. As if having too little government allowing businesses to do whatever is somehow Christlike? Sweatshops, women's oppression, slavery, and all those days when government stayed out of the way remind me so much of Charity, Christ, and Heaven. That's basically what heaven is going to be, a sweatshop. While hell is a socialist paradise.
Pass over some more foxnews kool-aid. Debt, big government, freedom, constitution, blllaaaahhhh USA! Muslims suck! ACLU DUMB! Don't Tread on me! Guns! Europe gay! Free market rule!
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Hey Kicky, does it irritate you that the lawyer is depicted as evil in this painting?
It's interesting how the business-woman, farmer, immigrant, and school teacher are depicted as good. I thought school teachers were trying to brainwash our youth with Marxism? I thought immigrants were bad since all they do is live off welfare,refuse to learn english, and sell drugs? The Christian minister is painted as good too. Weren't these the same guys that thought women were witches and that blacks should be slaves?
I also love how business and farmers are painted as good. As if farming subsidies aren't costing us a thing.... Nor unregulated wallstreet...
Edit: What's the difference between a school teacher and professor? I always thought they were the same. Professor just sounds a bit more professional....
Is this guy Mormon?
It's interesting how the business-woman, farmer, immigrant, and school teacher are depicted as good. I thought school teachers were trying to brainwash our youth with Marxism? I thought immigrants were bad since all they do is live off welfare,refuse to learn english, and sell drugs? The Christian minister is painted as good too. Weren't these the same guys that thought women were witches and that blacks should be slaves?
I also love how business and farmers are painted as good. As if farming subsidies aren't costing us a thing.... Nor unregulated wallstreet...
Edit: What's the difference between a school teacher and professor? I always thought they were the same. Professor just sounds a bit more professional....
Is this guy Mormon?