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The Gordon Hayward Experiment...you know the drill

billyshelby said:
I'm not picking on Hayward, but Locke has a bad habit of putting up stats out of context. If you go back one whole game more to the Lakers, you have to factor in a 1-7 from the field, 0-2 from 3. The 6 game sample is even worse. Or if you went just on his last two games, he's 4/13, 0/3. But by picking the 4 game sample, you get the absolute rosiest picture. At the end of the day, I'm not especially worried about the shooting since I believe he'll shoot better. I'm worried about the lack of aggressiveness, though he did finally get it going in the 4th the other night a little bit.
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I agree with you here billy. And I know Locke does his job to make the Jazz look as good as possible. But to be honest every time Gordon shot the Ball in the Dallas game I thought it was going in. It looked smooth and in rythm. Didn't take any forced shots and tried to finish at the rim. I'm still pretty high on what Hayward brings to this team considering he gets the ball were it is needed on Offense. And does a pretty good job of playing the defense that is being taught.
 
billyshelby said:
I'm not picking on Hayward, but Locke has a bad habit of putting up stats out of context. If you go back one whole game more to the Lakers, you have to factor in a 1-7 from the field, 0-2 from 3. The 6 game sample is even worse. Or if you went just on his last two games, he's 4/13, 0/3. But by picking the 4 game sample, you get the absolute rosiest picture. At the end of the day, I'm not especially worried about the shooting since I believe he'll shoot better. I'm worried about the lack of aggressiveness, though he did finally get it going in the 4th the other night a little bit.
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PH. D. in Inane Babbling...


Umm, isn't this what everyone does when trying to point out a hot streak? Why, grandpa, I think that dirty stat devil David Locke should have gone back to Hayward's first shot ever, and included everything in between.
 
franklin said:
PH. D. in Inane Babbling...


Umm, isn't this what everyone does when trying to point out a hot streak? Why, grandpa, I think that dirty stat devil David Locke should have gone back to Hayward's first shot ever, and included everything in between.
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This. Biley is just irked that his bum-buddy Chucker J. Smiles is still sucking bodaggots, and God is taking all of his minutes. Keep hatin' though, Biley.
 
franklin said:
PH. D. in Inane Babbling...


Umm, isn't this what everyone does when trying to point out a hot streak? Why, grandpa, I think that dirty stat devil David Locke should have gone back to Hayward's first shot ever, and included everything in between.
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Locke picks a 4 game sample. From that, he gets 45%, 43 from 3.

If Locke picks a 3 game sample, he gets 42%, 20% from 3.
If Locke picks a 2 game sample, he gets 31%, 0% from 3.
If Locke picks a 5 game sample, he gets 39%, 33% from 3.
If Locke picks a 6 game sample, he gets 37%, 27% from 3.

The point is Locke's choice of a 4 game sample was not arbitrary. It was the best possible spin on the fact Hayward is struggling with his shot.
 
TroutBum said:
This. Biley is just irked that his bum-buddy Chucker J. Smiles is still sucking bodaggots, and God is taking all of his minutes. Keep hatin' though, Biley.
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+9 for the aint reference. It brought back good memories. You are now officially the only person I have ever repped, positive or negative, and probably the last. I'm also not sure I even did it right. I just checked the box on advanced for excellent.
 
billyshelby said:
+9 for the aint reference. It brought back good memories. You are now officially the only person I have ever repped, positive or negative, and probably the last. I'm also not sure I even did it right. I just checked the box on advanced for excellent.
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Ya, you failed. I appreciate the thought though.

Hayward > Miles
 
7 game sample: 34%; 23%
8 game sample: 32%; 18%

But Locke will tell us he almost had it turned around back there with that 4 game sample.
 
He was awful tonight, apart from attacking the basket once and getting his dunk attempt rejected, he didn't seem to do anything with any purpose. I started calling him "Wayward" and hoping he would be replaced by CJ Miles. Yes, he was that bad.
 
TroutBum said:
You and your stats...
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Dude, what's it gonna take for you to admit that Hayward is really sucking right now? Since 1/22, he is shooting 11% from the floor, and hasn't hit a single 3 pointer. He's averaging 2 points, despite playing 37 mpg. Sure, his 7 rpg and 3 apg look good, but he also is averaging 4 TO's pg.

/Lockestats
 
I wish we had drafted Paul George drafted one spot after Gordy (the guy that many on this board wanted).

For Indy this year he's averaging 11 points, 45 % shooting, 46 % 3 point, 81 % FT, 5 rebounds, 1 assists, 1 steal.

Solid numbers... Something I wish Gordy would do....
 
Honestly, it begins and ends, with hitting wide open jumpers.

If he creates, rebounds, bla bla bla those are all bonuses.

But it begins and ends, with what the former Little Brother coach "Jim Boylen" said after being railed by Brigham Young's University.

Monson: Coach dog, what happened?
JimmyB: Feel like **** how am I supposed to feel? The ball didn't go in the hoop!
Monson: What's the plan coach?
JimmyB: Ball has gotta go in the hoop!

As long as Gordy is shooting sub 20 %, he's basically even more worthless than Ronnie Price or CJ.

A shooting guard needs to be able to shoot.
 
The Thriller said:
Honestly, it begins and ends, with hitting wide open jumpers.

If he creates, rebounds, bla bla bla those are all bonuses.

But it begins and ends, with what the former Little Brother coach "Jim Boylen" said after being railed by Brigham Young's University.

Monson: Coach dog, what happened?
JimmyB: Feel like **** how am I supposed to feel? The ball didn't go in the hoop!
Monson: What's the plan coach?
JimmyB: Ball has gotta go in the hoop!

As long as Gordy is shooting sub 20 %, he's basically even more worthless than Ronnie Price or CJ.

A shooting guard needs to be able to shoot.
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It's completely aggravating watching him pass up open jumpers. Maybe he doesn't have confidence his release is fast enough to get it off, or he just obsessed with that "better shot" but he has to take those to get himself in rhythm. Him and CJ need to get together have morph themselves into each other and we would have the perfect wing.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
It's completely aggravating watching him pass up open jumpers. Maybe he doesn't have confidence his release is fast enough to get it off, or he just obsessed with that "better shot" but he has to take those to get himself in rhythm. Him and CJ need to get together have morph themselves into each other and we would have the perfect wing.
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Totally agree.

I think we need to start CJ for a batch of games and let Hayward come off the bench. Whomever is playing better gets to play down the stretch in the 4th. If they are playing the same, go with the starter (CJ).

Maybe this will wake Hayward up.
 
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