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The HELL NO to AK and Fes Thread

Chad Feldheimer said:
AK has already said he'd stay in Utah for less than moving somewhere else. How much less is the question. I think the problem you'll run into with him is teams offer 3 or 4 year deals to AK and hopefully the Jazz would max out at 2 years. Does AK take a 4y/20M or 2y/10M?
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I still want AK for a reasonable salary if no more than to be someone who can guard Durant. The NBA championship may very well go through OKC.
 
PadgettsPumpFake said:
Is this overkill?

Anyway I think it is time to move on. Even if AK was willing to sign for a sane amount of money, I don't see what the upside for the Jazz is. He has peaked ability-wise (some would say defensively he did 6 years ago), but my reasons for my HELL NO vote has more to do with mentality. AK and Fes bring a casual mentality that I believe would be detrimental to the development of our youth movement. Watson, Harris, Millsap, and Okur can be the veterans we need to mentor our younger talents. I say regardless of the $ it's time to say goodbye to these two.
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With the abundance of big men on the Jazz roster, I would pass on Fes. If you want a sixth big man, bring back Elson. At least Elson brings a good work ethic.

But I would have to disagree regarding AK (if you can bring AK back at 3-5 million per year for 3-5 years). AK is a nice component who could easily give you 20-30 minutes a game (while Burke develops). At worst, AK would be a really nice trade chip. Don't throw away an asset for nothing. That is just silly.
 
If you can sign AK to a reasonably priced two year deal, you have to think about it, since he'd have decent value in trades with that sort of contract.
 
AK for 4-5 million for three years is a great deal. The Jazz should offer that right now. Fes for 1-1.5 million is a great deal. The Jazz should offer that right now.

We need a SF and really what does it hurt to have Fes as a back-up. Fes and AK have a place in this league. Both do some things really well. I love watching Fes guard Nene. I love watching AK play help defense.

With both of these guys it should never be about whether we want them on the team, because we all should, it should be about whether they are willing to play on contracts the Jazz are willing to offer.
 
Joe Utah said:
With the abundance of big men on the Jazz roster, I would pass on Fes. If you want a sixth big man, bring back Elson. At least Elson brings a good work ethic.

But I would have to disagree regarding AK (if you can bring AK back at 3-5 million per year for 3-5 years). AK is a nice component who could easily give you 20-30 minutes a game (while Burke develops). At worst, AK would be a really nice trade chip. Don't throw away an asset for nothing. That is just silly.
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You do know that Elson is 40 and was injured all of the last half of the season and completely ineffective?
 
I would take AK at 3-5 mil a year. He plays great defense and since I think Corbin will run the same system as sloan with a few changes, he also can help run the offense. Now a cheap Fes. At 1 -1.5 on a one year deal, I would go for that. There are a few guys that would give our bigs a hard time with. Nene and Bynum come to mind. You could also put him on Dirk early and make him shoot jumpers. You also never know when injury can strike and having an additional 7footer helps.

Might stretch a bit to keep Ak, would drive a hard bargain with Fes.
 
I don't have confidence that AK can play a diminishing role and maintain a strong mental attitude. He has a repeated behavioral pattern, as far as I can tell, of being a whiner. Whiners demand attention and create drama, not what a team developing a core of young players needs. I like AK, but it's time for him to go, regardless of how cheap we might otherwise sign him for.
 
It is amazing how AK is still beloved in Utah with all the crap he 's pulled. Besides being grossly overpaid. I cannot believe anyone would want to give a 5 year contract. I highly doubt AK is going to take less than 6 or 7 million. AK will get offers from other teams and I think AK should look at playoff teams so he could have a chance at playing for a ring instead of a rebuild in Utah.

I don't think the Jazz need both CJ and AK. I don't really see the need to bring in another veteran SG/SF to get major minutes unless we move Bell/CJ/Hayward/Burks. Bell and CJ are veterans who demand minutes so bring another veteran is only going to take minutes away from Hayward and Burks. I am done with "bringing in washed up vets to take away minutes from promising rookies" mentality that has been a staple of the Sloan era. It is time to play the best players and move forward instead of holding onto "favorite" jazz players like AK. The goal is about winning and not popularity.
 
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