The Honesty of Transgender Identity

[DutchJazzer]

as a side note: jazzgasm does not want or can backup his guarantees!

 

[Archie Moses]

*raises hand*

I have an anthropology degree. Race is not biological. Good day.

I found this topic interesting and something I never really thought about. Then google happens and I find myself down that rabbit hole.

From what I understand, there are many scientists that are split on race being biological or a social construct. In anthropological, it used to be taught that way but changed insomuch that even the definition clarifies:
Anthropology.

1. (no longer in technical use) any ofthe traditional divisions ofhumankind, the commonest beingthe Caucasian, Mongoloid, andNegro, characterized by supposedlydistinctive and universal physicalcharacteristics.
2. an arbitrary classification of modernhumans, sometimes, especiallyformerly, based on any or acombination of various physicalcharacteristics, as skin color, facialform, or eye shape, and nowfrequently based on such geneticmarkers as blood groups.
3. a socially constructed category ofidentification based on physicalcharacteristics, ancestry, historicalaffiliation, or shared culture:Her parents wanted her to marry withinher race.
4. a human population partiallyisolated reproductively from otherpopulations, whose members sharea greater degree of physical andgenetic similarity with one anotherthan with other humans.

TIL...

 

[JAZZGASM]

as a side note: jazzgasm does not want or can backup his guarantees!

1. I am in not in Utah
2. I said you may have the lowest IQ, not that you definitely do. So it was a true statement. Sorry your high IQ could not see that. I don't need a test to see how smart you are. Your posts do that for you.

 

[DutchJazzer]

2. I said you may have the lowest IQ, not that you definitely do. So it was a true statement. Sorry your high IQ could not see that. I don't need a test to see how smart you are. Your posts do that for you.

wow that is a real scientific ways.

you said one of lowest i said i am in top 10% of world population at least.

but that doesnt matter your feelings outweigh the actual iq test that i have taken in the past. good to know.

if only we knew that when i got expelled from high school. and had to go through testing because i was a problem child. to go to psychologist and all that ******** government sanctioned ****. they wouldn't let me back in school. or how about the time in university me and my some schoolmates went to actually get tested. (not counting the stupid internet tests ofcourse)

no those are invalid! jazzgasm guaranteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees that my iq is among the lowest on jazzfanz. without taking a real iq test.

facts bro GO BY FACTS.

the offer is still on the table though. but as we see your guarantee MEANS NOTHING!

 

[JAZZGASM]

wow that is a real scientific ways.

you said one of lowest i said i am in top 10% of world population at least.

but that doesnt matter your feelings outweigh the actual iq test that i have taken in the past. good to know.

if only we knew that when i got expelled from high school. and had to go through testing because i was a problem child. to go to psychologist and all that ******** government sanctioned ****. they wouldn't let me back in school. or how about the time in university me and my some schoolmates went to actually get tested. (not counting the stupid internet tests ofcourse)

no those are invalid! jazzgasm guaranteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees that my iq is among the lowest on jazzfanz. without taking a real iq test.

facts bro GO BY FACTS.

the offer is still on the table though. but as we see your guarantee MEANS NOTHING!

I have made no guarantee other than my original post was accurate. Your posts demonstrate your intelligence. No test needed. Glad this site has an ignore function. You aren't worth the effort.

 

[gandalfe]

I have made no guarantee other than my original post was accurate. Your posts demonstrate your intelligence. No test needed. Glad this site has an ignore function. You aren't worth the effort.

Yeah, Dutch is just not worth getting upset over. Like a little yappy dog. Sure, he poops on the carpet, but luckily you have a robot to clean that up. (The ignore feature)

 

[Gameface]

I have made no guarantee other than my original post was accurate. Your posts demonstrate your intelligence. No test needed. Glad this site has an ignore function. You aren't worth the effort.

Freaky Deaky Dutch

 

[jope]

There is no question that different groups can have different characteristics. But your comment on identification is like saying that all big nosed people are a race, then responding to objections by stating than anyone can clearly identify the big-nosed race just by looking at them. The grouping is artificial, and based mainly on appearance. There is no reason why Ethiopians and Namibians should be classified as the same thing. They don't even look the same. Race is not only useless, it's less than useless. Since Ethiopians and Namibians are quite different from one another, they won't be subject to the same genetic risks. Those populations with a high incidence of a genetic trait will increase the average for everyone, even those lacking said trait (and vice versa). Just like in your example of red heads, who are clearly not considered a separate race, but still require special attention that they wouldn't get if they used the averages of the more artificial "Caucasian race".

To further dig down the rabbit hole, aren’t any anthropogenic classifications “artificial” and arbitrary? They are just attempts to organize data.

 

[Siro]

To further dig down the rabbit hole, aren’t any anthropogenic classifications “artificial” and arbitrary? They are just attempts to organize data.

It is about useful definitions. Scientists put things into categories because sometimes generalizations can be very useful. I already explained this. Race is just something people are brought up with. It has no scientific value, and it is not used in any biological science (like I explained, race gets in the way of identifying high risk populations in medicine and genetics, it doesn't help it).

 

[Stoked]

This is as good a thread as any.

Recently been listening to Jordan Peterson debates and open forums.

He seems quite intelligent and I find myself agreeing with him a lot.

What are people’s thoughts on him? Good, bad and what am I missing?

 

[Zombie]

This is as good a thread as any.

Recently been listening to Jordan Peterson debates and open forums.

He seems quite intelligent and I find myself agreeing with him a lot.

What are people’s thoughts on him? Good, bad and what am I missing?

He's really good at making himself appear much more intelligent than he actually is.

 

[JimLes]

Peterson is your typical alt-right male, just disguised in a slightly more presentable package. He's more eloquent, but his points tend to be the same.