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The Jazz are exactly were they were expected to be

No it is very easy for the complainers to be objectionable. However it is difficult for some to be even handed and objective.

Seems to me like we make assesments about other teams and thin the Jazz are better than they are even though we see little of their team. OP is pretty right on. THe Jazz are pretty much where I expected to be, if not ahead. The Jazz had the toughest schedule in the league to begin the season, this coupled with the fact that we are young and have a lot of new players does not create an easy start to the season. Young teams do not play well on the road. This is to be expected. Let's see what happens as the schedule balances out.

Jazz are overlooked almost every single year. Then by the end we hear "That's just what the Jazz do..."

For example, last year. The Jazz were regulated to basement dweller status last year. We were projected bottom 5 in the NBA by some. We finished 6 games above .500 and got the 8th seed...
 
Jazz are overlooked almost every single year. Then by the end we hear "That's just what the Jazz do..."

For example, last year. The Jazz were regulated to basement dweller status last year. We were projected bottom 5 in the NBA by some. We finished 6 games above .500 and got the 8th seed...


This.
 
I think the Jazz haven't really figure themselves out yet. Ty just changed the starting lineup like 2 games ago.....and will probably do so again.

On top of that, you've got Al Jefferson who's struggling offensively playing a lot of minutes. Paul's struggling on shooting mid-range jumpers. So the 2 best offensive players on the Jazz last year have been struggling. You also need to lose a couple games at clutch time from Mo's bad decision-making to get Mo on the right page. Once you get these things going + the 3 point shooting to average where it needs to be (Marvin's shooting is off, Hayward's is as well) then I think we're a 4-6 playoff spot team.
 
If this exact team was coached by a better coach I can see the Jazz sitting on a record of 8-4...at least...
 
If this exact team was coached by a better coach I can see the Jazz sitting on a record of 8-4...at least...

I agree. At the same time though, I can see Corbin getting a bit better with his coaching in the last few games.
I just hope the trend continues.
 
Jazz are overlooked almost every single year. Then by the end we hear "That's just what the Jazz do..."

For example, last year. The Jazz were regulated to basement dweller status last year. We were projected bottom 5 in the NBA by some. We finished 6 games above .500 and got the 8th seed...
But that is not true.

Before 2011-12 season a panel of ESPN experts projected the Jazz to finish 12th. They were actually 8th (+4)
Before 2010-11 season a panel of ESPN experts projected the Jazz to finish 7th. They were actually 11th (-4)
Before 2009-10 season a panel of ESPN experts projected the Jazz to finish 6th. They were actually 5th (+1)
Before 2008-9 season a panel of ESPN experts projected the Jazz to finish 4th. They were actually 8th (-4)

Only once in the last 4 seasons the Jazz significantly outperformed the expectations of the experts.
 
But that is not true.

Before 2011-12 season a panel of ESPN experts projected the Jazz to finish 12th. They were actually 8th (+4)
Before 2010-11 season a panel of ESPN experts projected the Jazz to finish 7th. They were actually 11th (-4)
Before 2009-10 season a panel of ESPN experts projected the Jazz to finish 6th. They were actually 5th (+1)
Before 2008-9 season a panel of ESPN experts projected the Jazz to finish 4th. They were actually 8th (-4)

Good to know we went from all the experts and non Jazz NBA fans to just ESPN.
 
I agree. At the same time though, I can see Corbin getting a bit better with his coaching in the last few games.
I just hope the trend continues.

I think that the Nawlins, Boston and Philly games were all winnable. That would make the Jazz 9-3 and the 3rd seed in the west right now.
 
yeah, there's no reason to panic at all. 6-6 is actually a decent record given the quality of opponents and the home/road slate.

as of 1/12, the jazz will have played 23 road games and only 13 at home. if they're at .500 on the morning of january 13th, they're going to the playoffs for sure, as from that point forward they'll have 28 home games and just 18 road. more than likely, they'll be a bit under .500 on 1/13, but they'll have a huge schedule advantage from that points forward.
 
I think that the Nawlins, Boston and Philly games were all winnable. That would make the Jazz 9-3 and the 3rd seed in the west right now.
no team wins 100% of its winnable games. nobody. much less a fairly middling team like these jazz.
 
yeah, there's no reason to panic at all. 6-6 is actually a decent record given the quality of opponents and the home/road slate.

as of 1/12, the jazz will have played 23 road games and only 13 at home. if they're at .500 on the morning of january 13th, they're going to the playoffs for sure, as from that point forward they'll have 28 home games and just 18 road. more than likely, they'll be a bit under .500 on 1/13, but they'll have a huge schedule advantage from that points forward.


Ding, ding. The Jazz are sitting pretty right now. The goal between now and 1/12 is .500 ball. Dominate at home, get better on the road. If the Jazz are .500 on 1/12, they will have a shot at a 4-5 seed. I say this, because if they are .500 in January, they will have learned to win on the road and will become a very dangerous team.
 
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