The Lakers, Kevin Love and the Utah Jazz

[Jazz4ever]

That's why I like this team:

Burke/Livingston/Neto
Hayward/Hinrich
Wiggins/Buddinger
Favors/Randle
Gortat/Gobert

The right amount of youth (Burke, Hayward, Wiggins, Favors, Randle), vets who know how to win (Livingston, Hinrich, Gortat), and cap space (in four years, you are only committed to Wiggins and Randle, with two picks in 2017). That team makes the playoffs this fall. Plus, that is a team that a coach like Messina would want to coach. You have youth to mold, and vets to back you up.

That lineup looks comparable to Washington, with the main talent at PG for them and SF for us. They went 44-36 this year, in the West we would miss the playoffs by 5 games.

Wall
Beal
Ariza
Nene
Gortat

 

[green]

That's why I like this team:

Burke/Livingston/Neto
Hayward/Hinrich
Wiggins/Buddinger
Favors/Randle
Gortat/Gobert

The right amount of youth (Burke, Hayward, Wiggins, Favors, Randle), vets who know how to win (Livingston, Hinrich, Gortat), and cap space (in four years, you are only committed to Wiggins and Randle, with two picks in 2017). That team makes the playoffs this fall. Plus, that is a team that a coach like Messina would want to coach. You have youth to mold, and vets to back you up.

Going along that roster, in two years you look like this:

Burke, Neto, rookie
Hayward/Hinrich
Wiggins/FA
Favors/Randle
Gobert/Gortat

You have an All-Star in Wiggins. You have potential All-Stars in Favors/Randle. You have MAX money and more. Plus you have two draft picks. That is when you make your push to keep Wiggins. You go out and find another max guy to bring in. You can move Gortat, Hinrich, Favors, Randle, Gobert (any combination of that group) plus first round picks.

I like the flexibility, I like the cap space, I like the talent. If you keep Kanter and Burks, you had better believe that this core can win a title:

Burke, Hayward, Burks, Favors, Kanter, Wiggins.

I'm not sure they can.

 

[green]

That lineup looks comparable to Washington, with the main talent at PG for them and SF for us. They went 44-36 this year, in the West we would miss the playoffs by 5 games.

Wall
Beal
Ariza
Nene
Gortat

I agree, but their bench was...um...Gooden? Harrington? I think that our bench would be the difference maker, and take us from 44 wins (Washington) to the 48-50 range, which is playoff contention in the West.

 

[Bodhi]

Your takes are sad.

Are you serious? This post sounds like the kids mom in here to defend him. "But...., but......., if my son would have had the ability to play 40 mins a game he would dominate"

Dude, Kanter's ceiling is at tops an average pro. He'll never be an All-Star. Book it son.

Sorry, that was a little harsh I apologize. Crown, you saying "Randle is Kanter's little cousin potential wise", and PKM's instant karma on his dislike for MCW last year and his unreasonable dislike for Randle this year has lead me to lash out....most likely the Crown though (I still think PKM is a great poster).

This is the thing SF, you love Jabari...what about his **** defense? I just can't believe some of the stupidity that comes out of one of the most knowledgeable basketball fanbases....must be BYU fans? Anyways, have a nice night. I still think Randle is the 2/3rd best player in this draft and he'll prove it, he'll be an All-Star, Kanter...nope.

The point being... you still think Kanter will be a better pro then Randle, That's not gonna happen. If you have a chance to package Kanter, #23 and other considerations to have Randle and our first pick wherever that may be, you make that trade.

Randle is going to be a much better pro then Kanter, it's just that simple.

Hi BYU fan

Nuff said

Bro, you smoking rocks? Put that **** down b4 I have to call your bishop.

May I suggest going back to lurking? *in a condescending, flight attendant-esque voice*

 

[Doublea]

If Zach Lavine is their at 23, I hope to god we take him. 23 is the perfect swing for the fences pick.

I'd love to get him there, unfortunately it's looking like he will go lottery could even sneak into the top 10 with individual workouts.

 

[Sexual Favors]

I'd love to get him there, unfortunately it's looking like he will go lottery could even sneak into the top 10 with individual workouts.

Yeah... Bummer.

 

[akirac73]

Lindsey keeps talking about bringing in vets and trades. I bet 1-2 of the "core 4" isn't here this fall. As of right now, the only people Lindsey has any loyalty to is Burke, Favors and Gobert. Those are the guys he brought in.

I though Burke was Ty Corbin's choice, and Favors came over in the D-will trade (KOC's doing). I don't think DL has loyalty to any of the current players (which may be a good thing).

 

[orangello]

I though Burke was Ty Corbin's choice

I thought the same thing.

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Trashtalk

 

[green]

I though Burke was Ty Corbin's choice, and Favors came over in the D-will trade (KOC's doing). I don't think DL has loyalty to any of the current players (which may be a good thing).

I almost put that in there, but at the end of the day, Lindsey drafted Burke and extended Favors. Lindsey chose to have those guys on the team this fall.

That was my logic. I'm ok with limited loyalty with this group. They aren't as good as we think they are. That's why I'd be willing to let half of the "core 4" go.

 

[mellow]

News today that Boston is making a play for Love. They'll be able to do it with all those picks from The Nets.

Interesting that this Boston writer says Love is not a franchise player though.....

Gary Tanguay @Gary_Tanguay
Kevin Love is not a franchise player. Want him but need another player. @CSNEearlyEdition #celticstalk

 

[Stoked]

News today that Boston is making a play for Love. They'll be able to do it with all those picks from The Nets.

Interesting that this Boston writer says Love is not a franchise player though.....

Gary Tanguay @Gary_Tanguay
Kevin Love is not a franchise player. Want him but need another player. @CSNEearlyEdition #celticstalk

I'd agree that love by himself will not win rings. They talk about needing another player... in addition to Rondo?

 

[Hax0rs]

Again, you making assumptions like this. I just can't take anything that you type seriously. Why does liking Jabari make me a BYU fan? Jabari is a freaking talented young basketball player, so I would definitely be ecstatic if we got him on the team. I've already wasted enough time replying to you.

Jabari plays defense like a bag of rocks, just like your boy Jimmer, that defensive liability is something I don't want on this team.

Actually it isn't simple, it is just your opinion. No one knows what Randle will be in the NBA, it is purely speculation at this point. Same with Kanter, the difference is that at least Kanter has shown he can play in the NBA. What his ceiling is yet to be determine. Many anti-Kanter people expected Kanter to walk in and just be a stud because he was drafted #3. Kid has barely been playing basketball the last 4 years. His injury didn't help and he has several ways he can improve. The kid is freak'n 21 years old.

Plenty of players improve at their games well into there late twenties and early thirties if they want to do so. Kanter might not be an all-star because he is in the West and until the Jazz start contending he has little shot of doing so but if AK, Memo can make it so can Kanter. The only thing holding him back is his maturity and if he is willing to put the effort into it. However, I highly doubt that anyone can guarantee that Randle is a can't miss prospect considering he hasn't played one game in the NBA. No one knows at this point. Randle may be better and he may be worse but the difference mostly will be so small that arguing about it is nonsense.

As part of the trade, it isn't just Kanter that I have a problem with. Giving up Burks and the 23rd pick for an inferior player Budinger is just plain dumb.

Did I ever suggest that? My whole response to this thread was the stupid statement by SF that "Randel's potential was Kanter's little cousin ability wise" That's one of the stupidest, most unintelligible takes i've ever seen on this board. I felt compelled to reply.

May I suggest going back to lurking? *in a condescending, flight attendant-esque voice*

I'll do what I like. "In a low, Eastwood, I really don't give two ****s what Bodhi thinks kinda voice"