Not being facetious at all. 16th pick is a lot better than the late 20’s everyone promised me.
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Not being facetious at all. 16th pick is a lot better than the late 20’s everyone promised me.
He's actually signed through '29, it turns out.
Bawse Dawg
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Dude has hung around and make a great career for himself. We are vindicated in loving him when he was a Jazz for sure. We could use him right now tbh.
I bet if you go look back at that draft he is way outperforming most of his peers. His career longevity is impressive.
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Minny will end up trading Kat as soon as this year. Part of how good they will be in the future depends on the return there. I think they can still be play-in game/late lotto bad in some of those years and the recipe is really just:
- The return on KAT isn't great
- Rudy slows down or ages... this is a 2027/29 thing. An injury could happen and cause it sooner, but not gonna wish that on anyone.
- Ant isn't able to carry Jaden, old Rudy, Naz?, and whatever they get for KAT to a top 6 record.
- Ant gets frustrated and wants to go to a different market... could be for a variety of reasons but some serious cost cutting will occur over the next few years.
- Important role players like Kyle Anderson, Mike Conley, aren't replaced with good enough parts.
- Ant could also sustain some injuries.
Like Minny could have a year like Dallas had last year. Overall I'm bullish on Ant and think the picks are not likely going to be lotto, especially in 2025... but they could still be lotto adjacent.
Overall I actually think the Cavs picks have more of a chance of being great. Mobley looks good but he may not have the big leaps most assumed he would. Don won't be there long term... he just won't. Garland is awesome but has a hard time staying on the court and isn't going to carry a team by himself. Allen has hit his ceiling imo.
- The return on KAT isn't great
- Rudy slows down or ages... this is a 2027/29 thing. An injury could happen and cause it sooner, but not gonna wish that on anyone.
- Ant isn't able to carry Jaden, old Rudy, Naz?, and whatever they get for KAT to a top 6 record.
- Ant gets frustrated and wants to go to a different market... could be for a variety of reasons but some serious cost cutting will occur over the next few years.
- Important role players like Kyle Anderson, Mike Conley, aren't replaced with good enough parts.
- Ant could also sustain some injuries.
Like Minny could have a year like Dallas had last year. Overall I'm bullish on Ant and think the picks are not likely going to be lotto, especially in 2025... but they could still be lotto adjacent.
Overall I actually think the Cavs picks have more of a chance of being great. Mobley looks good but he may not have the big leaps most assumed he would. Don won't be there long term... he just won't. Garland is awesome but has a hard time staying on the court and isn't going to carry a team by himself. Allen has hit his ceiling imo.
Naz, Ant, McDaniels
They got Naz on a steal of a contract.
If you are high on Leonard, they got him coming down the pipeline.
They will get something for KAT. Hell they might get addition by subtraction overall on KAT. Even if it's just a Harden-esque return.
Gobert is showing this year he can have a post-prime career and isnt just going to fall off a cliff because he gets less athletic.
They got Naz on a steal of a contract.
If you are high on Leonard, they got him coming down the pipeline.
They will get something for KAT. Hell they might get addition by subtraction overall on KAT. Even if it's just a Harden-esque return.
Gobert is showing this year he can have a post-prime career and isnt just going to fall off a cliff because he gets less athletic.
Bottom line is we shouldnt be expecting top 10 picks from Minnesota unless multiple bad injuries happen until the last pick. They can still be good to solid picks, but we likely arent changing the franchise with them and we arent convincing other teams they are top tier trades pieces (though they are still quite good as any unprotected pick can be).
I agree to an extent but 2027 and 2029 are so far away that those are extremely valuable trade assets.
76ers' Oubre struck by car, released from hospital
76ers guard Kelly Oubre Jr. has been released from a hospital in Philadelphia, where he was treated Saturday night after being struck by a car in Center City, a team spokesman told ESPN.
Totally missed his when it happened. Oubre got hit by a car in a hit and run around 7 pm just walking around his place.
Bilal having another game.
Yeah, that's a sad story. Apparently he will not be playing for awhile.76ers' Oubre struck by car, released from hospital
76ers guard Kelly Oubre Jr. has been released from a hospital in Philadelphia, where he was treated Saturday night after being struck by a car in Center City, a team spokesman told ESPN.www.espn.com
Totally missed his when it happened. Oubre got hit by a car in a hit and run around 7 pm just walking around his place.
HeatCheck
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I just watched Kings destroy Cavs and the game was not as close as the score. Mobley is so mechanical offensively and Don looks about as checked out as he did here 2 years ago. The Kings kept attacking Garland who might be nearly as bad a defender as Sexton. Sabonis was having his way pushing around Mobley and Allen to get to his spots.
Who knows if they can right the ship before they are potentially forced to deal Don. If Jazz are going to end up with any lottery pick(s) down the line from those 2 big trades they will likely be coming from Cleveland.
Who knows if they can right the ship before they are potentially forced to deal Don. If Jazz are going to end up with any lottery pick(s) down the line from those 2 big trades they will likely be coming from Cleveland.