The Non-Jazz NBA Thread in the Jazz Section

[sip]

This is why I thought Naz signing was a mistake, as good as he is. Too much $ tied up in bigs. Unless they are willing to pay a zillion in tax, either Naz or KAT must go. Unless their strategy was to sign Naz to a tradeable asset and then parlay him into picks and/or guards, which could turn out okay. As we are rooting for good draft picks, let's hope the ceiling collapses.

The Naz signing was a total steal and a brilliant move. He definitely a highly attractive asset at his number. The ceiling in Minny is definitely not to going to collapse as long as Ant is healthy. He is a true star in this league and will to continue to get better.

 

[sip]

This is true, and even more so, if OKC and Denver specifically go deep, how much will that increase the panic of those others?

Been saying all year that there are too many teams who think they contend. Reality will catch up to some of them soon enough.

The biggest thing is that the next waive of contenders are already primed and ready to go in the west. Houston is primed to take that OKC type leap next year and the griz will likely be right back to the top tier of the west next year with a far more talented team than they had last year. I'm not sure what route the spurs go but if they end up getting 2 lotto picks this year they may go heavy on win now role players in the offseason to solidify the roster and improve quickly. Give them a little depth and they could improve real quick with Wemby being so damn dominant.

 

[silesian]

The Naz signing was a total steal and a brilliant move. He definitely a highly attractive asset at his number. The ceiling in Minny is definitely not to going to collapse as long as Ant is healthy. He is a true star in this league and will to continue to get better.

It’s a good take, but how many teams are successful long term with $90 million/ year tied up in “centers”

It forces their hand

 

[silesian]

The Naz signing was a total steal and a brilliant move. He definitely a highly attractive asset at his number. The ceiling in Minny is definitely not to going to collapse as long as Ant is healthy. He is a true star in this league and will to continue to get better.

I agree that ant sets a decent floor but I’m more concerned about their ceiling. Not sure they are a title team without peak/ healthy KAT as a big who can stretch the floor.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

The biggest thing is that the next waive of contenders are already primed and ready to go in the west. Houston is primed to take that OKC type leap next year and the griz will likely be right back to the top tier of the west next year with a far more talented team than they had last year. I'm not sure what route the spurs go but if they end up getting 2 lotto picks this year they may go heavy on win now role players in the offseason to solidify the roster and improve quickly. Give them a little depth and they could improve real quick with Wemby being so damn dominant.

Houston isn’t near the OKC leap imo. I agree with the premise of your post though. We might not need to tank next year with how tough the west will be. We might be bottom 7-8 in the league naturally.

 

[FrenchJazzFa]

I find funny how some people think Minny will have problem when they got ANT, to build around who will be MVP one ay or another when we got Lauri at best a second star option. Minny will be good for 2 or 3 years when we probably still suck. Good enough to win a title, i would say no right now, But ANT got no limit so....

 

[silesian]

I find funny how some people think Minny will have problem when they got ANT, to build around who will be MVP one ay or another when we got Lauri at best a second star option. Minny will be good for 2 or 3 years when we probably still suck. Good enough to win a title, i would say no right now, But ANT got no limit so....

No one is arguing minny is not going to be good or that they will not be better than the Jazz, so this is a straw man argument.

 

[FrenchJazzFa]

No one is arguing minny is not going to be good or that they will not be better than the Jazz, so this is a straw man argument.

I refer to old comments following Rudy trade and then Mike trade. Rudy was declining ( Kessler was already better for some people), Mike was too old....they were going to collapse and our pick will turn into gold. Definity not happening even if i think they cannot win a championship with this roster except if KAT surprised everybody at PO time. He never shine at PO but who know, it can change. And their defense is terrific.

On the other side, i was wrong about Cavs. I tought they could not make it. I follow quite a lot of their games and they are really good. Worst of that, Don is as good as he was with us in offense but is also playing great defense. Probably a better environment for him there to put defensive effort but definitly frustrating for me. Don talent should have make us much better than what we got.
Anyway we can't change the past. Hope Jazz turn into a decent team soon.

 

[Ron Mexico]

I refer to old comments following Rudy trade and then Mike trade. Rudy was declining ( Kessler was already better for some people), Mike was too old....they were going to collapse and our pick will turn into gold. Definity not happening even if i think they cannot win a championship with this roster except if KAT surprised everybody at PO time. He never shine at PO but who know, it can change. And their defense is terrific.

On the other side, i was wrong about Cavs. I tought they could not make it. I follow quite a lot of their games and they are really good. Worst of that, Don is as good as he was with us in offense but is also playing great defense. Probably a better environment for him there to put defensive effort but definitly frustrating for me. Don talent should have make us much better than what we got.
Anyway we can't change the past. Hope Jazz turn into a decent team soon.

Things change quickly in the NBA. Who knows what happens even next year. If your whole premise is one player is the reason... good luck. He could demand a trade, get injured, retire for some silly reason, or get arrested. But if not he's a great player to build around.

 

[FrenchJazzFa]

Things change quickly in the NBA. Who knows what happens even next year. If your whole premise is one player is the reason... good luck. He could demand a trade, get injured, retire for some silly reason, or get arrested. But if not he's a great player to build around.

I totally agree with you. Things can change fast. I follow the Grizz during all Mike time there and was convinced when they draft Ja that they will win a championship in the 5 coming years as were almost all followers....we all know how it went....

 

[sip]

Houston isn’t near the OKC leap imo. I agree with the premise of your post though. We might not need to tank next year with how tough the west will be. We might be bottom 7-8 in the league naturally.

I don't think they will make a leap to the very top of the west but damn they look like trouble with Jalen Green seeming to have turned a corner. He was looking more like a Clarkson type of ceiling guy but now I'm thinking more Bradley Beal. As far as us being bottom 8 next year I would be very surprised if that was not the case at this point.

 

[fishonjazz]

I refer to old comments following Rudy trade and then Mike trade. Rudy was declining ( Kessler was already better for some people), Mike was too old....they were going to collapse and our pick will turn into gold. Definity not happening even if i think they cannot win a championship with this roster except if KAT surprised everybody at PO time. He never shine at PO but who know, it can change. And their defense is terrific.

On the other side, i was wrong about Cavs. I tought they could not make it. I follow quite a lot of their games and they are really good. Worst of that, Don is as good as he was with us in offense but is also playing great defense. Probably a better environment for him there to put defensive effort but definitly frustrating for me. Don talent should have make us much better than what we got.
Anyway we can't change the past. Hope Jazz turn into a decent team soon.

So posts before Ant leveled up?
I bet people feel differently now

Sent from my CPH2451 using Tapatalk