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[whatthe]

Question: What kind of tanking did Denver do to get in their position? What was Minnesota's path? What was Houston's?

Denver got a 2nd pick as their top player and was more of a hybrid. Minny was bad but also did a big-time trade for Rudy and another for Conley so it was not pure tank. Houston is a pure tank but are they really a great team? I think pure tank doesn't always work, but a hybrid one or one that works with the best qualities of the market you have is the best approach. Danny and Justin are good value finders in trades and drafts. The development program is good too. That the Jazz strength keep using it. And treat tanking like one of the options but not the primary one.

 

[silesian]

I refer to old comments following Rudy trade and then Mike trade. Rudy was declining ( Kessler was already better for some people), Mike was too old....they were going to collapse and our pick will turn into gold. Definity not happening even if i think they cannot win a championship with this roster except if KAT surprised everybody at PO time. He never shine at PO but who know, it can change. And their defense is terrific.

On the other side, i was wrong about Cavs. I tought they could not make it. I follow quite a lot of their games and they are really good. Worst of that, Don is as good as he was with us in offense but is also playing great defense. Probably a better environment for him there to put defensive effort but definitly frustrating for me. Don talent should have make us much better than what we got.
Anyway we can't change the past. Hope Jazz turn into a decent team soon.

I picked minny to win the west this year, fyi

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

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Yikes... Rudy should get his fine money back.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Wonder if Porter gets a lifetime ban. He's a nobody and easy to make an example of if proven guilty

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Wonder if Porter gets a lifetime ban. He's a nobody and easy to make an example of if proven guilty

Likely banned for life.

 

[jom2003]

Quin's leading the Hawks to erase a 30pt deficit against the Celtics. Dejounte has 14asts with only 1 TO.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Quin's leading the Hawks to erase a 30pt deficit against the Celtics. Dejounte has 14asts with only 1 TO.

17 points on 20 shots

 

[jom2003]

17 points on 20 shots

With 15 assists and 3 steals. 1TO and 0 foul in 41min. The sign of a complete player. Impacting the game when your shot isn't falling, which is something that was completely missing from DM/Mitchell era.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Question: What kind of tanking did Denver do to get in their position? What was Minnesota's path? What was Houston's?

Denver got a 2nd pick as their top player and was more of a hybrid. Minny was bad but also did a big-time trade for Rudy and another for Conley so it was not pure tank. Houston is a pure tank but are they really a great team? I think pure tank doesn't always work, but a hybrid one or one that works with the best qualities of the market you have is the best approach. Danny and Justin are good value finders in trades and drafts. The development program is good too. That the Jazz strength keep using it. And treat tanking like one of the options but not the primary one.

Denver was bad for several years. They picked Mudiay and Jamal Murray in the top 7 of back-to-back drafts. They were also a late lottery team when they drafted Donovan Mitchell for us in 2017 and then took a chance on Michael Porter Jr. in 2018. So their core was Jokic, Murray and MPJ. Then they were able to put together a trade for Aaron Gordon and recruit a couple of key free agents, like Caldwell-Pope and Bruce Brown. Losing Jeramy Grant in free agency was a setback. Obviously getting the best player in the league in the 2nd round in 2014 was a coup.

 

[latin jazz]

Impacting the game when your shot isn't falling, which is something that was completely missing from DM/Mitchell era.

 

[UpArrow]

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He's looking better for the Wolves than he did for the Jazz.

 

[Jaanipoeg]

Crazy that Houston would be tied for 10th with the Warriors if Golden State loses on the road against Miami tonight. What a run they've gone on