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I was hoping someone else would post about CMB last night, because it's probably looking like I'm obsessed, but I can't not give him his props. He was a beast last night.

17/7/7/5stocks and had about 5-10 more deflections plus multiple impressive 1 on 1 defensive possessions. He was a team high +24 and that feels about right.

There is no way I would have taken CMB over Ace, so I'm not complaining, but I have to admit to being a little jealous. He would be the type of defender we could really really use.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
I was hoping someone else would post about CMB last night, because it's probably looking like I'm obsessed, but I can't not give him his props. He was a beast last night.

17/7/7/5stocks and had about 5-10 more deflections plus multiple impressive 1 on 1 defensive possessions. He was a team high +24 and that feels about right.

There is no way I would have taken CMB over Ace, so I'm not complaining, but I have to admit to being a little jealous. He would be the type of defender we could really really use.
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I noticed. Here is a list of Rookies who played last night and how many points they scored. BTW, CMB was to my knowledge in the top 10 of Rookie scorers for the week.

Day 77

  1. Kon Knueppel 23 W
  2. Kobe Sanders 20 W
  3. CMB 17 W
  4. VJ Edgecombe 17 L
  5. Sion James 5 W
  6. Walter Clayton 5 L
  7. Yang Hansen 4 W
  8. Liam McNeely 3 W
  9. Y Niederhauser 0 W
  10. Will Richard 0 L
  11. Ryan Kalkbrenner 0 W DNP
  12. Noa Essengue 0 L DNP
  13. Ace Bailey 0 L DNP
  14. Asa Newell 0 L DNP
  15. Khaman Maluach 0 L DNP
  16. Rasheer Fleming 0 L DNP
  17. Johni Broome 0 L DNP
 
David Hume said:
I noticed. Here is a list of Rookies who played last night and how many points they scored. BTW, CMB was to my knowledge in the top 10 of Rookie scorers for the week.

Day 77

  1. Kon Knueppel 23 W
  2. Kobe Sanders 20 W
  3. CMB 17 W
  4. VJ Edgecombe 17 L
  5. Sion James 5 W
  6. Walter Clayton 5 L
  7. Yang Hansen 4 W
  8. Liam McNeely 3 W
  9. Y Niederhauser 0 W
  10. Will Richard 0 L
  11. Ryan Kalkbrenner 0 W DNP
  12. Noa Essengue 0 L DNP
  13. Ace Bailey 0 L DNP
  14. Asa Newell 0 L DNP
  15. Khaman Maluach 0 L DNP
  16. Rasheer Fleming 0 L DNP
  17. Johni Broome 0 L DNP
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That's interesting. I would also point out that CMB is not a box score guy. It's difficult to understand his impact unless you are watching the games.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
That's interesting. I would also point out that CMB is not a box score guy. It's difficult to understand his impact unless you are watching the games.
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Yes, keeping a daily tally of how many points each rookie scored gives a very limited picture. I miss the majority of the games too (living in Puerto Rico, West Coast games, sleeping). Still, it gives me something to think about.
 
Just watched Sixers vs. Nuggets.

As much as Maxey generally makes you forget he's like 6'1'' because he's a great scorer and a hard working defender, in crunch time he suddenly becomes a little guy again. When it's down to one possession and the Sixers absolutely need to get a shot up, Maxey is in trouble because he can't shoot over anyone. He needs to dribble around/past people and that's just a tough ask when there's 10 seconds remaining and the defense is locked in.

The lesson, as always... don't have a little guy as your #1 option.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
I was hoping someone else would post about CMB last night, because it's probably looking like I'm obsessed, but I can't not give him his props. He was a beast last night.

17/7/7/5stocks and had about 5-10 more deflections plus multiple impressive 1 on 1 defensive possessions. He was a team high +24 and that feels about right.

There is no way I would have taken CMB over Ace, so I'm not complaining, but I have to admit to being a little jealous. He would be the type of defender we could really really use.
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I love his game. If you had told me he'd shoot 40% from 3 this early I would have been even higher on him. Just does so much stuff that helps you win and I think there are multiple levels he can grow.

As good as Queen has been I think I'd still prefer to build around this type of player.
 
I think that it's hilarious (or horrible?) that there's been very little discussion around the NBA this season about... the championship. Who's gonna win? Who's in the race?

I mean... that's the big future goal we're tanking for, right? (Rhetorical question.)

Viewership is way up this season, so people seem to be engaged, but it feels like the excitement is mostly about single game matchups, storylines of young stars developing and veterans fading, that kind of thing. Nobody's thinking or talking about the championship. There's very little player movement on the market, so attention is directed to the relentless content flow of the draft-industrial complex, which in turn puts tanking/professional losing in the spotlight. Probably not ideal, in the big picture.

Could it be that the intrinsic value of an NBA championship is tied to a historical perspective? And (mostly young) people are slowly losing that perspective? Does an average 23 year old fan know, remember or care who won the championship 10 years ago?

Does it matter?
 
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I would be hesitant to trade Lauri for Jalen straight up. Funny thing is if you asked me last year I would have told you we’d have to add picks to that deal.
 
Elizah Huge said:
Jalen Willians
JJJ is Jaren btw

I know people might think that’s crazy but he has not been better than Lauri this year. Not even close.
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So Lauri is a good reference point for why I said Jalen could be overrated. I think Jalen should probably be considered in the same tier as Lauri. But Lauri is seen as a top 30ish player and not a top 15ish player. Obviously Jalen is still great, but I think his contributions are oversold.
 
KqWIN said:
So Lauri is a good reference point for why I said Jalen could be overrated. I think Jalen should probably be considered in the same tier as Lauri. But Lauri is seen as a top 30ish player and not a top 15ish player. Obviously Jalen is still great, but I think his contributions are oversold.
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Jalen is obviously a better defender but Lauri is a much better scorer. While defense is important, the type of dependable, efficient volume scoring Lauri does is the most valuable skill in the league.
 
Tremendous Upside said:
I think that it's hilarious (or horrible?) that there's been very little discussion around the NBA this season about... the championship. Who's gonna win? Who's in the race?

I mean... that's the big future goal we're tanking for, right? (Rhetorical question.)

Viewership is way up this season, so people seem to be engaged, but it feels like the excitement is mostly about single game matchups, storylines of young stars developing and veterans fading, that kind of thing. Nobody's thinking or talking about the championship. There's very little player movement on the market, so attention is directed to the relentless content flow of the draft-industrial complex, which in turn puts tanking/professional losing in the spotlight. Probably not ideal, in the big picture.

Could it be that the intrinsic value of an NBA championship is tied to a historical perspective? And (mostly young) people are slowly losing that perspective? Does an average 23 year old fan know, remember or care who won the championship 10 years ago?

Does it matter?
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It's hilarious that you can claim that "nobody is thinking or talking" about something. It's time to logoff the internet and have a ****ing sandwich, pal.

"Draft-industrial complex".... lmfao.
 
Shad said:
The Wizards are up 17 with a quarter to go. Come on!
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I've seen this movie before. Wizards, Indiana, and the Pelicans were/are all up. Every single one of them is going to lose. At least if the Jazz are up halfway through the 4th, there is a decent chance they will fight for the win. And we are the ones the NBA is complaining about.
 
framer said:
I've seen this movie before. Wizards, Indiana, and the Pelicans were/are all up. Every single one of them is going to lose. At least if the Jazz are up halfway through the 4th, there is a decent chance they will fight for the win. And we are the ones the NBA is complaining about.
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Welp, Wizards pulled through. How 'bout that?!
 
The Wizards have won 5 of 7. Their youngins are a lot better than ours and their good vets are playing either for their NBA lives (Bagley) or a final big contract (McCollum).

Middleton is washed as hell offensively, but he's bad tank commander since he still defends at a reasonable level.
 
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