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stitches said:
Depends on what his assignments are ... but in general yes... there's plenty of blame to go around when you are on the verge of a sweep in the playoffs, but the specific focus on Gobert is weird when IMO there are much more pressing problems with what's going on with Minny.
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You said it right: the specific focus on Gobert - and Mitchell - has been weird. But this is ALL people on this site have been talking about in the last 2-3 weeks. Praising or criticizing them, digging out some old threads and personal grievances. I would rather talk about something else but you folks are forever fixated on your ex-girlfriends and if I want to be part of the ongoing conversation I have to talk about them too...

What's weird is that Mitchell and Gobert have not left any lasting legacy in Utah and as people they are both kinda a-holes... Conley, Ingles, O'Neal, Agbaji are much more likable but nobody follows and talks about them.
 
jazznik said:
You said it right: the specific focus on Gobert - and Mitchell - has been weird. But this is ALL people on this site have been talking about in the last 2-3 weeks. Praising or criticizing them, digging out some old threads and personal grievances. I would rather talk about something else but you folks are forever fixated on your ex-girlfriends and if I want to be part of the ongoing conversation I have to talk about them too...

What's weird is that Mitchell and Gobert have not left any lasting legacy in Utah and as people they are both kinda a-holes... Conley, Ingles, O'Neal, Agbaji are much more likable but nobody follows and talks about them.
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I dont think its about those players. Its about some takes and/or forum feuds of the past.

Being proven right or wrong doesnt have an expiry date.
 
Watching Luka and Kyrie has reinforced my appreciation for ball handling. It feels like this skill consistently gets overlooked in the draft and overall NBA talent evaluations. Neither Kyrie nor Luka is the most athletic player, but they can still get wherever they want on the court because of their ability to keep their dribble alive and their high amount of feel and control while dribbling in traffic and ability to get the ball to whoever is open.
I feel like these last two drafts have been especially poor for guys that can handle at an elite level. I wonder if size and athleticism and the 3 ball have become somehow overvalued and that ballhandling isn't being focused on as much.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
Watching Luka and Kyrie has reinforced my appreciation for ball handling. It feels like this skill consistently gets overlooked in the draft and overall NBA talent evaluations. Neither Kyrie nor Luka is the most athletic player, but they can still get wherever they want on the court because of their ability to keep their dribble alive and their high amount of feel and control while dribbling in traffic and ability to get the ball to whoever is open.
I feel like these last two drafts have been especially poor for guys that can handle at an elite level. I wonder if size and athleticism and the 3 ball have become somehow overvalued and that ballhandling isn't being focused on as much.
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Good post

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SoberasHotRod said:
Watching Luka and Kyrie has reinforced my appreciation for ball handling. It feels like this skill consistently gets overlooked in the draft and overall NBA talent evaluations. Neither Kyrie nor Luka is the most athletic player, but they can still get wherever they want on the court because of their ability to keep their dribble alive and their high amount of feel and control while dribbling in traffic and ability to get the ball to whoever is open.
I feel like these last two drafts have been especially poor for guys that can handle at an elite level. I wonder if size and athleticism and the 3 ball have become somehow overvalued and that ballhandling isn't being focused on as much.
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When you pair that great handle with elite shot making ability it is fun to watch. That is the thing that really jumps out with Ant this series is that he does have the elite shot making ability but he doesn't have the handle to maximize it yet. Of the guys in this draft the only one that has the handle and elite shot making potential is probably Rob Dillingham. His ability to create space and finish over bigger players was impressive this last year.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
Watching Luka and Kyrie has reinforced my appreciation for ball handling. It feels like this skill consistently gets overlooked in the draft and overall NBA talent evaluations. Neither Kyrie nor Luka is the most athletic player, but they can still get wherever they want on the court because of their ability to keep their dribble alive and their high amount of feel and control while dribbling in traffic and ability to get the ball to whoever is open.
I feel like these last two drafts have been especially poor for guys that can handle at an elite level. I wonder if size and athleticism and the 3 ball have become somehow overvalued and that ballhandling isn't being focused on as much.
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Luka has plus size for a ball handler and it makes him probably the best advantage creator in the league. Also, Shai Gilgeous-Alexander's ability to beat defenders is predominantly based on his handle. He's not explosive or overpowering. Same with Jamal Murray. Being able to handle is just critical to self-creation, and the Jazz might currently be the worst ball-handling team in the league.

Keyonte's coming up though...


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